OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by Braasch » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 7:04 PM UTC

OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review
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Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by sxates » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 7:37 PM UTC

What's missing here for me is some kind of performance evaluation. If I upgrade my 2011 MBA from Mavericks to Yosemite, should I expect any change in performance, for better or worse? Did the power management change in any significant way?

Apple's mobile OSs have a way of obsoleting older hardware. I'm curious to know if their desktop OSs are trending that way as well, or if they're making performance gains instead.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by richbradshaw » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 7:44 PM UTC

sxates wrote: post #2

What's missing here for me is some kind of performance evaluation. If I upgrade my 2011 MBA from Mavericks to Yosemite, should I expect any change in performance, for better or worse? Did the power management change in any significant way? Apple's mobile OSs have a way of obsoleting older hardware. I'm curious to know if their desktop OSs are trending that way as well, or if they're making performance gains instead.

Mavericks added performance and battery life, but as far as I'm aware there isn't a focus for that on Yosemite - the work having been done in Mavericks.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by forrestthewoods » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 7:58 PM UTC

richbradshaw wrote: post #3

sxates wrote: post #2

What's missing here for me is some kind of performance evaluation. If I upgrade my 2011 MBA from Mavericks to Yosemite, should I expect any change in performance, for better or worse? Did the power management change in any significant way? Apple's mobile OSs have a way of obsoleting older hardware. I'm curious to know if their desktop OSs are trending that way as well, or if they're making performance gains instead.

Mavericks added performance and battery life, but as far as I'm aware there isn't a focus for that on Yosemite - the work having been done in Mavericks.

Apple has a pretty poor track record in recent years on perf. Especially with iOS updates. If Yosemite didn't focus on perf then it seems likely to have gone down and older machines will suffer. Thats not necessarily wrong but it is important to understand before you dive in.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by x0x0 » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 7:59 PM UTC

sxates wrote: post #2

What's missing here for me is some kind of performance evaluation. If I upgrade my 2011 MBA from Mavericks to Yosemite, should I expect any change in performance, for better or worse? Did the power management change in any significant way? Apple's mobile OSs have a way of obsoleting older hardware. I'm curious to know if their desktop OSs are trending that way as well, or if they're making performance gains instead.

Mavericks is very buggy (locking w/ multiple monitors; finder bugs). I'd wait for at least update 2.

Oh, and the .0 release will, if the pattern holds, have shit perf in some common situations. I presume because apple doesn't test for that.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by smutticus » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 8:05 PM UTC

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics.

I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that. I want a review to actually explore this angle as opposed to simply talking about features that honestly mean nothing to me.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by cdbattags » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 8:09 PM UTC

I actually read this all the way through... Quality writing.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by scj » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 8:12 PM UTC

smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

How often does your MBP crash?

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by pbreit » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 8:14 PM UTC

smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

Doubt you're going to see much about crashing since I presume that most MBP owners, like myself, never experience crashes.

Re: OS X 10.10 Yosemite: The Ars Technica Review

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Post by nodata » Thu, Oct 16, 2014, 8:14 PM UTC

smutticus wrote: post #6

None of these reiews answer the one question I always want answered; will this cause my MBP to crash more often than 10.8.5? I have all the features I need, I want fewer GPU panics. I know these reviewers cannot answer this question, I just want to point out that it's the only relevant question for me. Given Apple's track record, this release will most likely cause my MBP to crash more often, but I want data on that.…

You should be getting zero crashes before your upgrade. How many crashes are you seeing? What are you doing near the crash?