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The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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What does it mean to sell a machine the sole purpose of which is to exploit a "legal loophole"? Can't the machine be made illegal the minute it's available to the public?

You can't sell all the ingredients, tools and instructions to build a meth lab ("Breaking Bad in a Box"!) so what's so different with a gun?

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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> ill your own lower receiver at home, however, and you can order the rest of the parts from online gun shops, creating a semi-automatic weapon with no serial number, obtained with no background check, no waiting period

Besides the 6 months it takes to learn to make one that won't blow up in your face when you pull the trigger?

Alarmist drivel.

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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I have to agree with the initial comment on the article, this is a fear mongering piece. Anyone that has a working knowledge of firearms can put together a usable weapon using readily available parts. In fact, a trip to home depot is all you need in order to build a crude (and pretty dangerous) shotgun. I also think it goes without saying that a criminal would probably opt to spend the $1,200 required to buy this CNC device on a weapon (or weapons) that have already been assembled.

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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post #2

What does it mean to sell a machine the sole purpose of which is to exploit a "legal loophole"? Can't the machine be made illegal the minute it's available to the public? You can't sell all the ingredients, tools and instructions to build a meth lab ( "Breaking Bad in a Box" !) so what's so different with a gun?

The regulations that make it impossible to sell a DIY meth lab also make kid's chemistry sets neutered pieces of crap.

Meth should be legal and sold out of liquor stores to anyone 21 or older anyway. And while I don't condone tweakers cooking it in the trailer park, I see no reason why one shouldn't be allowed to do that chemistry if they're careful and take proper precautions.

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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$1200 machine that can print arbitrary metal objects and the journalist focuses on a gun? What is wrong with you people...

It's a mill. Doesn't "print", it's a subtractive process... give it a block of metal and it cuts away the pieces you don't want.

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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post #2

What does it mean to sell a machine the sole purpose of which is to exploit a "legal loophole"? Can't the machine be made illegal the minute it's available to the public? You can't sell all the ingredients, tools and instructions to build a meth lab ( "Breaking Bad in a Box" !) so what's so different with a gun?

It is not exploiting a loop hole. Federal law allows for the building of guns in the privacy of ones home. Just because this individual has decided to use this to make a gun, does that mean that we should outlaw all 3d milling devices because some of them make guns?

People have been building 80% lowers for years, without any background check, as the ATF does not consider it to be a weapon. All one needs is a drill press. Should we outlaw drill presses because they can be used to make a gun less then 1% of the time. Despite all of the other uses of a drill press?

Also the difference between a gun and your meth example is that meth manufacturing is illegal in all capacities. The private manufacturing of a firearm is not considered illegal, as long as you do not sell that firearm that you have created.

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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post #2

What does it mean to sell a machine the sole purpose of which is to exploit a "legal loophole"? Can't the machine be made illegal the minute it's available to the public? You can't sell all the ingredients, tools and instructions to build a meth lab ( "Breaking Bad in a Box" !) so what's so different with a gun?

It's not an "AR-15 lower receiver maker". It's a cheap CNC mill you can do an infinite number of useful things with. Should high quality printers be illegal because you can make counterfeit bills with it? Or is the potential for harm an incidental part of any useful device? You can stab someone with a knife, but they're pretty handy for chopping food, too.
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