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#3This has been around for years already.
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#4This has been around for years already.
cool. how about a comment on its usefulness? code quality? breadth of TOS it has ratings for?
"it's been around for years" doesn't add much value.
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#5As a non-technical person from a completely different industry, my take on TOS is this: I don't care.
Why would anyone care? Is it a legal binding contract between me and the comany? No. It might be taken into account if we go into court, but if they have it in their TOS that I bought an elephant from them - it will not hold.
If they grant me any rights in their TOS - do I trust them? No. I would never keep data in the cloud without backups. Or have the assumption that my data will be held private.
It's all just occupational therapy for lawyers.
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#6This has been around for years already.
cool. how about a comment on its usefulness? code quality? breadth of TOS it has ratings for? "it's been around for years" doesn't add much value.
Website's user design is bad- opening "more details" in a new tab, for example, just redirects to the homepage. It's also not very filled out- major services like DuckDuckGo and Instagram just have stub pages.
The problem with this website is that 99% of the users will never run into an issue with the TOS, and the 1% that do, will need a lawyer, not a TL;DR website. It's not very needed, nor does it do a good job at presenting the info it should.
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#7The irony is that they have to say this:
"Nothing here should be considered legal advice. We express our opinion with no guarantee and we do not endorse any service in any way. Please refer to a qualified attorney for legal advice. Reading ToS;DR is in no way a replacement for reading the full terms to which you are bound."
Even criticism of legalese requires legalese.
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#8Not really ToS but Ello https://ello.co/wtf/post/privacy privacy page is kinda funny to read.
On the Information Sharing section it says: Ello does not have any affiliated companies right now. But if we do in the future, we may share information with them, too.
But I guess everyone on HN already knew it was nothing but publicity.
edit: wrote trello instead of ello
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#9As a non-technical person from a completely different industry, my take on TOS is this: I don't care. Why would anyone care? Is it a legal binding contract between me and the comany? No. It might be taken into account if we go into court, but if they have it in their TOS that I bought an elephant from them - it will not hold. If they grant me any rights in their TOS - do I trust them? No. I would never keep data in t…
> Is it a legal binding contract between me and the comany? No.
In the U.S., Web site terms of service / terms of use can indeed be a legal, binding contract:
+ If you click on "I agree" or something like it, then it's very likely to be binding, as more than one user has discovered to his chagrin. [1]
+ If you continue to use the Web site, and the site has a sufficiently-prominent notice that terms apply, then those terms are likely to be binding. [2]
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clickwrap
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browse_wrap; see also the Ninth Circuit's extensive discussion and citation of cases in http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2014/08/18/12...
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#10As a non-technical person from a completely different industry, my take on TOS is this: I don't care. Why would anyone care? Is it a legal binding contract between me and the comany? No. It might be taken into account if we go into court, but if they have it in their TOS that I bought an elephant from them - it will not hold. If they grant me any rights in their TOS - do I trust them? No. I would never keep data in t…
> Why would anyone care? Is it a legal binding contract between me and the comany? No. It might be taken into account if we go into court, but if they have it in their TOS that I bought an elephant from them - it will not hold.
That's interesting. Do you have any sources on that? Why do these services even bother having ToS?