Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by zefi » Sat, Aug 30, 2014, 10:40 PM UTC

Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested
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Re: Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by cocolos » Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 1:06 AM UTC

Last I checked I thought we were more closely related to primates not monkeys--not sure if that's of any significance.

Re: Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by i80and » Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 1:09 AM UTC

cocolos wrote: post #2

Last I checked I thought we were more closely related to primates not monkeys--not sure if that's of any significance.

Apes, I think you mean; both apes and monkeys are primates.

Re: Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by ams6110 » Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 1:13 AM UTC

Geisbert notes that about half of Ebola patients survive without taking ZMapp.

What is the actual mortality rate? I have heard reports varying from 40% to 90%.

Re: Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by tejon » Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 1:13 AM UTC

cocolos wrote: post #2

Last I checked I thought we were more closely related to primates not monkeys--not sure if that's of any significance.

Monkeys are primates.

Oh, let's see if I can remember the main groupings...

Primates ->

> Lower Primates ->

> > Tarsiers

> > Aye-Ayes

> > Lorises

> Lemurs & Red Pandas

> Simians ->

> > New World Monkeys

> > Old World Monkeys

> Hominoids ->

> > Gibbons & Siamangs

> > Great Apes ->

> > > Orangutans

> > > Gorillas

> > > Chimpanzees ->

> > > > Chimpanzee

> > > > Bonobo

> > > > Humans

Re: Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by Crito » Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 2:03 AM UTC

tejon wrote: post #5

cocolos wrote: post #2

Last I checked I thought we were more closely related to primates not monkeys--not sure if that's of any significance.

Monkeys are primates. Oh, let's see if I can remember the main groupings... Primates -> > Lower Primates -> > > Tarsiers > > Aye-Ayes > > Lorises > Lemurs & Red Pandas > Simians -> > > New World Monkeys > > Old World Monkeys > Hominoids -> > > Gibbons & Siamangs > > Great Apes -> > > > Orangutans > > > Gorillas > > > Chimpanzees -> > > > > Chimpanzee > > > > Bonobo > > > > Humans

Wiki has humans and chimpanzees/bonobos in different subtribes, so humans wouldn't be under "Chimpanzees ->":

  Tribe Hominini
   Subtribe Panina
    Genus Pan
     Chimpanzee (common chimpanzee), Pan troglodytes
      Central chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes troglodytes
      Western chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes verus
      Nigeria-Cameroon chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes ellioti
      Eastern chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes schweinfurthii
     Bonobo (pygmy chimpanzee), Pan paniscus
   Subtribe Hominina
    Genus Homo
     Human, Homo sapiens
      Anatomically modern human, Homo sapiens sapiens

Re: Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by dylz » Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 2:18 AM UTC

ams6110 wrote: post #4

Geisbert notes that about half of Ebola patients survive without taking ZMapp. What is the actual mortality rate? I have heard reports varying from 40% to 90%.

It varies by subtype.

Re: Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by hughlomas » Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 2:30 AM UTC

ams6110 wrote: post #4

Geisbert notes that about half of Ebola patients survive without taking ZMapp. What is the actual mortality rate? I have heard reports varying from 40% to 90%.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/guinea/index.html

Current outbreak appears to be around 50-55% mortality.

Re: Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by zaroth » Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 2:35 AM UTC

The best way to control the current outbreak is with traditional measures: diagnosing patients, isolating them, tracing their contacts and testing them, and extending the process out in circles, until all exposed patients have been isolated.

I was wondering about the software they use to track this process, if any? Say, for example, you get the manifest for a plane where a passenger was infected. If you wanted to track infections from that point, which is unlikely but possible, that's a lot of work. And if it spirals out from there?

Re: Experimental Ebola drug cured 100% of monkeys tested

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Post by tejon » Sun, Aug 31, 2014, 2:54 AM UTC

Crito wrote: post #6

tejon wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Monkeys are primates. Oh, let's see if I can remember the main groupings... Primates -> > Lower Primates -> > > Tarsiers > > Aye-Ayes > > Lorises > Lemurs & Red Pandas > Simians -> > > New World Monkeys > > Old World Monkeys > Hominoids -> > > Gibbons & Siamangs > > Great Apes -> > > > Orangutans > > > Gorillas > > > Chimpanzees -> > > > > Chimpanzee > > > > Bonobo > > > > Humans

Wiki has humans and chimpanzees/bonobos in different subtribes, so humans wouldn't be under "Chimpanzees ->": Tribe Hominini Subtribe Panina Genus Pan Chimpanzee (common chimpanzee), Pan troglodytes Central chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes troglodytes Western chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes verus Nigeria-Cameroon chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes ellioti Eastern chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes schweinfurthii Bonobo (pygmy chimpanzee),…

Yeah, it's not the mainstream classification but it's been proposed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Chimpanzee) and I find it entertaining. So. ;)