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Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government

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Re: Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government

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> Despite a federal court order directing Microsoft to turn overseas-held email data to federal authorities, the software giant said Friday it will continue to withhold that information as it waits for the case to wind through the appeals process. The judge has now ordered both Microsoft and federal prosecutors to advise her how to proceed by next Friday, September 5.

> Let there be no doubt that Microsoft's actions in this controversial case are customer-centric. The firm isn't just standing up to the US government on moral principles. It's now defying a federal court order.

Whoever wrote this clearly didn't bother wondering if, just maybe, handing out customer data "overseas" ("overseas" apparently means Ireland) would be illegal under EU and Irish law. But let's not minor details like this get in the way of good PR.

Re: Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government

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if the ruling is upheld, web services that face legal discovery like google, dropbox, facebook, microsoft, etc will face an amazing burden of data retention cost.

there is an amazing tax already on these services having to implement per government specific retention policies based on where they do business. for example in ireland, by law you need to be able to produce up to a year of content even if an account has been deleted. in the u.s. the period is much shorter. so if other countries create similar legislation after seeing a u.s. version of this law stick, everyone will have to implement a myriad of retention policies, or worst case retention, in every datacenter they operate. it drives up cost and complexity in the services.

this might not be popular to say, but microsoft taking a stand here is an amazingly good thing for our industry.

Re: Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government

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The casualness with which the U.S. Government asks a private company to violate EU and Irish law is truly disturbing.

The U.S. Gov has gone mad with power.

And for perhaps the first time ever: bravo Microsoft! I don't even care if you did if for the PR, it's still a brave stand.

Re: Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government

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post #5

The casualness with which the U.S. Government asks a private company to violate EU and Irish law is truly disturbing. The U.S. Gov has gone mad with power. And for perhaps the first time ever: bravo Microsoft! I don't even care if you did if for the PR, it's still a brave stand.

Indeed. And I'm surprised the European governments are just taking it.

Re: Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government

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post #5

The casualness with which the U.S. Government asks a private company to violate EU and Irish law is truly disturbing. The U.S. Gov has gone mad with power. And for perhaps the first time ever: bravo Microsoft! I don't even care if you did if for the PR, it's still a brave stand.

They did it neither for PR nor "principles", but for mere money. The US data hegemony is bad for business overseas.

Re: Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government

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post #5

The casualness with which the U.S. Government asks a private company to violate EU and Irish law is truly disturbing. The U.S. Gov has gone mad with power. And for perhaps the first time ever: bravo Microsoft! I don't even care if you did if for the PR, it's still a brave stand.

They did it neither for PR nor "principles", but for mere money. The US data hegemony is bad for business overseas.

You have no possible way to know that.

Re: Microsoft Defies Court Order, Will Not Give Emails to US Government

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They give it to the NSA, and the NSA shares it with other govt. bodies through that search engine (and probably a dozen other ways).

Anyway, it always freaks me out a bit when people cheer a megacorp like MS. They're not fighting for you, they're fighting for your perception of them. The faster you cheer, the less they'll do.

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