Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
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Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
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Re: Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
#2I'm conflicted. I respect someone for standing up for what they believe in (freedom to express their views) but this also seems like one of those "pick your battles" situations.
Google like it or not are a key sponsor of Code Club. They do some good and some evil, but they're a key sponsor, and as the director you need to put the organisation ahead of your personal issues/complaints.
The complaints might be entirely valid (and they likely are), but when you're in that kind of position you might not have the luxury of expressing valid complains about the people who literally pay the bills.
So I guess my thought is: Maybe this is best for all parties. Code Club gets to continue, Linda Sandvik will be able to express herself openly, and Google will be able to continue to be a Code Club sponsor without conflict.
It is just unfortunate that these personal complaints couldn't be put to the side for the betterment of the organisation as a whole.
Re: Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
#3I'm conflicted. I respect someone for standing up for what they believe in (freedom to express their views) but this also seems like one of those "pick your battles" situations. Google like it or not are a key sponsor of Code Club. They do some good and some evil, but they're a key sponsor, and as the director you need to put the organisation ahead of your personal issues/complaints. The complaints might be entirely…
You cannot have a healthy society if only the powerless are allowed to criticize the powerful.
She isn't even resigning in protest of Google's involvement, but the board's forbidding her to criticize any of Google's actions.
Re: Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
#4I'm conflicted. I respect someone for standing up for what they believe in (freedom to express their views) but this also seems like one of those "pick your battles" situations. Google like it or not are a key sponsor of Code Club. They do some good and some evil, but they're a key sponsor, and as the director you need to put the organisation ahead of your personal issues/complaints. The complaints might be entirely…
You cannot have a healthy society if only the powerless are allowed to criticize the powerful. She isn't even resigning in protest of Google's involvement, but the board's forbidding her to criticize any of Google's actions.
Why should a sponsor finance a project that tells people the sponsor is evil?
I don't really see the problem here. Two parties disagree, so they go separate ways. End of story.
Re: Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
#5Linda Sandvik sounds like a fundamentally good person, and the other members of the Code Club board bad ones. Good on her. They will be harmed by her absence, and they deserve that.
The belief that sponsorship can buy silence is disgusting and immoral. Sponsorship should convey absolutely nothing aside from receiving credit for assisting with the sponsored organizations goals.
Re: Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
#6I'm conflicted. I respect someone for standing up for what they believe in (freedom to express their views) but this also seems like one of those "pick your battles" situations. Google like it or not are a key sponsor of Code Club. They do some good and some evil, but they're a key sponsor, and as the director you need to put the organisation ahead of your personal issues/complaints. The complaints might be entirely…
Why do you take it as implicitly acceptable that Google should expect silence about their bad actions simply because they sponsor the club? Is Google sponsoring the club to support teaching kids to code, or to buy some ideological allies in the tech ideas sphere? If the second, why should we accept such a thing?
Re: Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
You cannot have a healthy society if only the powerless are allowed to criticize the powerful. She isn't even resigning in protest of Google's involvement, but the board's forbidding her to criticize any of Google's actions.
Why should a sponsor finance a project that tells people the sponsor is evil? I don't really see the problem here. Two parties disagree, so they go separate ways. End of story.
>Why should a sponsor finance a project that tells people the sponsor is evil?
Because they are sponsoring the project in order to accomplish the goals the project works toward - not because they are buying friends. If they want to teach kids to code, sponsoring Code Club gives them that. If they insist on also getting people to censor themselves and lie, then they're just being spoiled children.
Re: Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
You cannot have a healthy society if only the powerless are allowed to criticize the powerful. She isn't even resigning in protest of Google's involvement, but the board's forbidding her to criticize any of Google's actions.
Why should a sponsor finance a project that tells people the sponsor is evil? I don't really see the problem here. Two parties disagree, so they go separate ways. End of story.
They don't have to. But if a sponsor is doing something that someone fundamentally disagrees with, they shouldn't be told to shut their mouths so the money keeps rolling in. That's called corruption.
Re: Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
#9I'm conflicted. I respect someone for standing up for what they believe in (freedom to express their views) but this also seems like one of those "pick your battles" situations. Google like it or not are a key sponsor of Code Club. They do some good and some evil, but they're a key sponsor, and as the director you need to put the organisation ahead of your personal issues/complaints. The complaints might be entirely…
Why do you take it as implicitly acceptable that Google should expect silence about their bad actions simply because they sponsor the club? Is Google sponsoring the club to support teaching kids to code, or to buy some ideological allies in the tech ideas sphere? If the second, why should we accept such a thing?
"Why do you take it as implicitly acceptable that Google should expect silence"
I wouldn't (and i work for Google!). But I also expect this is more on the side of "Board worries about this in abstract" than "Particular company made a complaint".
Re: Linda Sandvik Resigns As Director Of Code Club
#10The Code Club board just taught their students a very important life lesson about what happens when you stand up for whats right.