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The Difference Between Working at Facebook, Google, and Microsoft

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Re: The Difference Between Working at Facebook, Google, and Microsoft

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> ...Korolev spent a couple of years at Google... He then moved on Microsoft... Within a year he decided to shift to Facebook, participated in the company's BootCamp, and worked in spam for a a bit before deciding large corporations were a thing of the past... After a stint with... Public Verification, Korolev decided to move on...

I know I should be judging the story solely based on its merit than its source, but this kind of makes me wonder. He seems to job shift once a year on average. Considering that you spend a month or two settling in and that you usually decide a month or two in advance before you leave, he seems to have had little time to properly experience each company (except perhaps for Google).

Re: The Difference Between Working at Facebook, Google, and Microsoft

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> "I prefer startups because I like to be surrounded by people who are not just working 9-5 but prefer to get things done" Not a big fan of this attitude. You can get quite a lot done in a standard work day without the same risk of burnout.

I don't get this attitude. It's decently well known that there are diminishing returns once you pass a 6-8 hour workday. Why would anyone want to spend more time working to produce worse results?

Re: The Difference Between Working at Facebook, Google, and Microsoft

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> ...Korolev spent a couple of years at Google... He then moved on Microsoft... Within a year he decided to shift to Facebook, participated in the company's BootCamp, and worked in spam for a a bit before deciding large corporations were a thing of the past... After a stint with... Public Verification, Korolev decided to move on... I know I should be judging the story solely based on its merit than its source, but th…

According to his linkedin profile he spent 4 years at Google in Zurich, 1 year at Microsoft and less than a year at Facebook:

www.linkedin.com/in/dimakorolev

He doesn't state whether he worked at Facebook's Menlo Park or Seattle office.

Re: The Difference Between Working at Facebook, Google, and Microsoft

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> "I prefer startups because I like to be surrounded by people who are not just working 9-5 but prefer to get things done" Not a big fan of this attitude. You can get quite a lot done in a standard work day without the same risk of burnout.

When I read ''9 to 5'' in this context I take it to represent a culture and mindset of limited engagement and responsibility, not necessarily the literal physical presence for only those hours of the day.

Re: The Difference Between Working at Facebook, Google, and Microsoft

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> "I prefer startups because I like to be surrounded by people who are not just working 9-5 but prefer to get things done" Not a big fan of this attitude. You can get quite a lot done in a standard work day without the same risk of burnout.

I'm strongly in your camp. However, to play devils advocate, a founder has to make the company the focus of their life. They're gonna be working long hours, 6-7 days a week, with little to no vacation. There's diminishing returns on that time, but the pressure is on and the clock is ticking.

Naturally, founders want to hire people who also make the startup their life. If you're working all day, don't you want to build your company with people who do the same?

But besides founders fervor to work round the clock, some people are just addicted to work. They can't stop thinking about it and no matter what they're doing, if it's not work, they're not satisfied. These people want to work with other people with the same mentality.

Re: The Difference Between Working at Facebook, Google, and Microsoft

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> "I prefer startups because I like to be surrounded by people who are not just working 9-5 but prefer to get things done" Not a big fan of this attitude. You can get quite a lot done in a standard work day without the same risk of burnout.

I don't get this attitude. It's decently well known that there are diminishing returns once you pass a 6-8 hour workday. Why would anyone want to spend more time working to produce worse results?

The returns are diminishing, but not by much for many people. E.g. a 100 hours work week having 2x the productivity of a 40 hours one (instead of 2.5x).

From my 30+ years of experience in the SW industry, a guy who works 100 hours will far outproduce someone working 37.5 or 40 hours and on top will improve his skills a lot faster.

Re: The Difference Between Working at Facebook, Google, and Microsoft

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> "I prefer startups because I like to be surrounded by people who are not just working 9-5 but prefer to get things done" Not a big fan of this attitude. You can get quite a lot done in a standard work day without the same risk of burnout.

I don't get this attitude. It's decently well known that there are diminishing returns once you pass a 6-8 hour workday. Why would anyone want to spend more time working to produce worse results?

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Re: The Difference Between Working at Facebook, Google, and Microsoft

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> "I prefer startups because I like to be surrounded by people who are not just working 9-5 but prefer to get things done" Not a big fan of this attitude. You can get quite a lot done in a standard work day without the same risk of burnout.

You may be placing a different interpretation on here that the author intends. . Here "9-5" means people who are just working for the sake of working vs startups where there's a tangible goal to hit and people want to hit it and move on. So it's a "I want to work around a constant short term goal oriented culture vs one where goals are measured in years (if at all)"
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