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Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ changes the face of battle

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Re: Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ changes the face of battle

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Of note:

"“The Iron Dome system and its impressive success thus far have had a strategic impact on managing the campaign. It gives us wide options,” said Defense Minister Moshe Yaalon. “Having said that, we cannot become complacent.”"

Reminds me of when I first read many years about the potential paradox of using a firewall and security - that it also meant you couldn't ignore individual security settings (turning off ports and services) on machines behind the firewall assuming that the first line of defense was sufficient.

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the oppressed people on the other side now engage in a financial war. for the price they would build one rocket with explosive payload, now they can build some 4 dummy ones. making the invading state pay 20k x3 more than before. while also recruiting more people, who would be averse to the violence before.

Re: Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ changes the face of battle

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The "Iron Dome" will not change the current situation in a way that, say, political negotiation will. It's really frustrating to watch the same process play itself out. Throw a few more bombs in, stir the ashes (so to say) and repeat in 2 years. Is the ongoing plan to degrade the operational capacity of Hamas _just so_ that they cannot seriously threaten? Does the Iron Dome entail perpetual open warfare?

It's clear that Israel is doubling down on automation and military technology so that the war can grind on from an increasingly safe distance. They have the tiger by the tail and they cannot let go! So, lock it in the closet, behind domes and fences, etc.

I would hate being stuck in Gaza right now. Can you imagine? What a shit-show. There is no "dome" there, naturally. The bombs come flying in with ease. And it seems like 50/50 that there will be a ground invasion. Supposedly Egypt has the tunnels to Gaza sealed. Maybe Israel thinks this is the time to completely smash Hamas. All this is something to think about while you sit in a basement, for days.

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The "Iron Dome" will not change the current situation in a way that, say, political negotiation will. It's really frustrating to watch the same process play itself out. Throw a few more bombs in, stir the ashes (so to say) and repeat in 2 years. Is the ongoing plan to degrade the operational capacity of Hamas _just so_ that they cannot seriously threaten? Does the Iron Dome entail perpetual open warfare? It's clear t…

I think the Iron Dome is helping to effectively neutralize Hamas and reduce the number of weapons Hamas has, which may help defuse the situation, making it perhaps more possible that Hamas/Fatah coalition will see their best option is in a negotiated solution.

That said, I really hope they don't launch a ground invasion - thanks to the Iron Dome it is even more asymmetrical/unnecessary than it usually is and would only serve to push Hamas back towards more radical tactics, like suicide bombings, and other more radical groups will form in Hamas' wake if Hamas is destroyed.

Hopefully cooler heads prevail. But we're talking about Bibi here.

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the oppressed people on the other side now engage in a financial war. for the price they would build one rocket with explosive payload, now they can build some 4 dummy ones. making the invading state pay 20k x3 more than before. while also recruiting more people, who would be averse to the violence before.

That is silly, if someone is "averse to the violence" they aren't going to be recruited by an argument that essentially boils down to "No.. don't worry about it.. now only 10% of our missiles make it through.."

Re: Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ changes the face of battle

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This scenario, were the population in control has nearly magical technology compared to the nearly useless technology available to those under occupation, reads to me like a dystopian future that is usually written about in science fiction.

I wish the scenario playing out here was a blip in history one rather than one that festers for decade, after decade, after decade without significant positive change.

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the oppressed people on the other side now engage in a financial war. for the price they would build one rocket with explosive payload, now they can build some 4 dummy ones. making the invading state pay 20k x3 more than before. while also recruiting more people, who would be averse to the violence before.

Or.. you know, stop firing rockets and maybe then more people will come and hear what you have to say.

Re: Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ changes the face of battle

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Wow, what an unbalanced article! No mention of casualties on the other side. Disgusting one-sided coverage. I am really disappointed in the Washington Post. Bad job. I find that Israeli news sources like Haaretz are more balanced re: the middle east than the US news is - strange. Al Jazeera is another reasonable source for middle east news. Forget about US news coverage of the middle east.

As an American, I find I often feel the need to use something like news.google.com to find articles on any given story from many countries around the world to get a more balanced view. This is a practice that I have introduced to several friends and family members, and once they make the little bit of effort to look at world wide coverage they understand my complaint about the US news industry.

In our modern world, I think that it is at least ill-advised, if not dangerous, to live in a bubble and not read many opposing opinions on important events.

Re: Israel’s ‘Iron Dome’ changes the face of battle

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Wow, what an unbalanced article! No mention of casualties on the other side. Disgusting one-sided coverage. I am really disappointed in the Washington Post. Bad job. I find that Israeli news sources like Haaretz are more balanced re: the middle east than the US news is - strange. Al Jazeera is another reasonable source for middle east news. Forget about US news coverage of the middle east. As an American, I find I of…

a correction: the Washington Post does have does have a front page article that does a better job at covering the issues from both side: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/over-100-kil...

I stand by my comments on the benefits of reading news from multiple sources.

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