Don't you think it's time to support python, ruby and other scripting languages in the browser?
Why this obsession with Javascript?
Why not discuss the inclusion of python on the browser?
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Re: Why not discuss the inclusion of python on the browser?
#2Because really, browsers are large enough and contain enough avenues for security holes already.
I'm no javascript guru, but let's please keep the number of languages embedded in browsers limited to the absolute minimum.
And let's get rid of flash while we're 'discussing' this.
Re: Why not discuss the inclusion of python on the browser?
#3Which python?
Do you think it's time for python, ruby and other scripting languages to be standardised?
Do you remember how well visual basic worked in the browser?
Re: Why not discuss the inclusion of python on the browser?
#4Because really, browsers are large enough and contain enough avenues for security holes already. I'm no javascript guru, but let's please keep the number of languages embedded in browsers limited to the absolute minimum. And let's get rid of flash while we're 'discussing' this.
What would python add that Javascript doesn't already let you do? Granted it can make programming easier in my opinion, but think of the complexity it would add. Any major website would need to either have two versions of their code (one JS, one Python), or more likely just use Javascript (you can't turn away visitors because their browser doesn't support your favorite language)
Re: Why not discuss the inclusion of python on the browser?
#5This is the wrong approach. Javascript is rapidly becoming the "bytecode" of browsers. Look at established projects like Haxe and GWT which take higher level languages and compile them down to low-level javascript. Pyjamas is even a python port of Gwt, not sure how well tested.
This approach solves many problems. Browser developers only have to support one language (javascript), and already projects like the V8 engine are making that fast and standardized. Developers can use the language of their choice.
It's what Java should have been in the first place. It's a pity that this is all built on an oddball language like javascript, but perhaps that's the only way this could have happened because there's no legacy javascript outside the browser.
Re: Why not discuss the inclusion of python on the browser?
#6Because really, browsers are large enough and contain enough avenues for security holes already. I'm no javascript guru, but let's please keep the number of languages embedded in browsers limited to the absolute minimum. And let's get rid of flash while we're 'discussing' this.
What would python add that Javascript doesn't already let you do? Granted it can make programming easier in my opinion, but think of the complexity it would add. Any major website would need to either have two versions of their code (one JS, one Python), or more likely just use Javascript (you can't turn away visitors because their browser doesn't support your favorite language)
The answer is that we need a VM supporting many scripting languages.
I recommend the demo where some guy is scripting in Ruby.net and following on Python... The sites can be implemented in any scripting language.
Re: Why not discuss the inclusion of python on the browser?
#7This is the wrong approach. Javascript is rapidly becoming the "bytecode" of browsers. Look at established projects like Haxe and GWT which take higher level languages and compile them down to low-level javascript. Pyjamas is even a python port of Gwt, not sure how well tested. This approach solves many problems. Browser developers only have to support one language (javascript), and already projects like the V8 engin…
But Javascript is the right language for the future? I don't think it's a "21st Century solution"
Re: Why not discuss the inclusion of python on the browser?
#8Python used to be available as a client side scripting language for EMCA but I can't find that project these days.
Re: Why not discuss the inclusion of python on the browser?
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What would python add that Javascript doesn't already let you do? Granted it can make programming easier in my opinion, but think of the complexity it would add. Any major website would need to either have two versions of their code (one JS, one Python), or more likely just use Javascript (you can't turn away visitors because their browser doesn't support your favorite language)
The answer is that we need a VM supporting many scripting languages. I recommend the demo where some guy is scripting in Ruby.net and following on Python... The sites can be implemented in any scripting language.
That doesn't even begin to handle the backwards compatibly argument. We still have people using browsers like IE6, so for a long period of time you would need to write code in both languages.