CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by lpinca » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 1:33 PM UTC

CentOS 7 potential release
seven.centos.org

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by facorreia » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 1:39 PM UTC

Looks like a release candidate.

> At this point we have a set of images that we consider release grade, pending final testing, we will move to release these unless a major blocker is reported.

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by leog7 » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 1:58 PM UTC

facorreia wrote: post #2

Looks like a release candidate. > At this point we have a set of images that we consider release grade, pending final testing, we will move to release these unless a major blocker is reported.

the site is not loading what's new besides upgrades?

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by netcraft » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 1:59 PM UTC

looking forward to trying systemd, hope it isn't too much of a learning curve.

Looking at: http://tecadmin.net/red-hat-enterprise-linux-7/# - will HAProxy come with centos 7?

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by nodata » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 2:05 PM UTC

Site seems down, but an aggregator has a mirror (see the second entry): http://planet.centos.org/

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copy/paste if that goes down too:

hi,

At this point we have a set of images that we consider release grade, pending final testing, we will move to release these unless a major blocker is reported.

folks with bandwidth to spare are encouraged to help seed these images via torrents, here are the urls to hit:

http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/isos/x86_64/CentOS-7.0-140...

- KB

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by msumpter » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 2:06 PM UTC

netcraft wrote: post #4

looking forward to trying systemd, hope it isn't too much of a learning curve. Looking at: http://tecadmin.net/red-hat-enterprise-linux-7/# - will HAProxy come with centos 7?

Anything that is in the standard release of RHEL7 will be in CentOS7. But for sanity sake I checked one of the 7 mirrors and there is an HAproxy (1.5) RPM: http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/centos/7/os/x86_64/Package...

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by facorreia » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 2:13 PM UTC

leog7 wrote: post #3

facorreia wrote: post #2

Looks like a release candidate. > At this point we have a set of images that we consider release grade, pending final testing, we will move to release these unless a major blocker is reported.

the site is not loading what's new besides upgrades?

That page was just a list of links to download the images for testing.

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by ck2 » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 2:13 PM UTC

Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed?

They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA

Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything:

   systemd replaces init.d
   grub2 replaces grub
   xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem

(many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature)

No more easy editing/understanding grub.conf

No more easy to edit/understand /etc/init.d (systemctl instead)

No more text log files for system log (journalctl instead)

Watch out for default XFS filesystem instead of EXT4 because it is slower in real world use for databases, etc.

Red Hat claims RHEL7 is 11-25% faster than RHEL6, I am not convinced at all, I think they are referencing a stock setup for 6 vs 7, but I don't know anyone that runs things stock without tuning. Wait for independent benchmarks.

CentOS 6.x will be supported until 2020

If you want a 3.x kernel for CentOS 6.x, try the ELrepo repository, they do builds for both mainline and longterm 3.x kernel releases. http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-lt

If you want newest GCC for CentOS 6.x try the CERN repo for devtoolset http://linux.web.cern.ch/linux/devtoolset/

ps. there is currently no way to upgrade a 6.x install "in place" to 7.x, though Red Hat has migration tool and CentOS folks say they will look at doing the same - but like I said, don't be in a rush to early adopt 7.x

pps. RHEL7 notes are a way to explore what else is new: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterp...

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by pling » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 2:20 PM UTC

ck2 wrote: post #8

Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed? They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything: systemd replaces init.d grub2 replaces grub xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem ( many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature ) No more easy…

Thanks for posting this. That's what i was expecting.

Does any of that really improve my day?

Nope. In fact most of it makes it worse and adds friction. More cogs turning in different directions.

Will keep our devops stuff on CentOS 6.5 for at least another 4 years...

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Post by bearlikelion » Mon, Jul 07, 2014, 2:22 PM UTC

ck2 wrote: post #8

Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed? They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything: systemd replaces init.d grub2 replaces grub xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem ( many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature ) No more easy…

As excited as I am for 7.0 I highly dislike the systemd and grub changes. I'll wait for benchmarks before I decide to go to 7.0 or fully switch my stack to Debian