Fatal Dose – Radiation Deaths linked to AECL Computer Errors (1994)
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Re: Fatal Dose – Radiation Deaths linked to AECL Computer Errors (1994)
#2I work on medical devices (and have worked on radiotherapy devices previously) and the standards for quality systems and regulatory hurdles (which I occasionally see bemoaned here on HN) are there with good reason. In fact, Therac-25 is often cited when training new hires on quality (as required with any ISO-13485 compliant QMS).
Re: Fatal Dose – Radiation Deaths linked to AECL Computer Errors (1994)
#3For those that haven't read it, here's Levesons article on the Therac-25: http://sunnyday.mit.edu/papers/therac.pdf
Re: Fatal Dose – Radiation Deaths linked to AECL Computer Errors (1994)
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#5Edit: The "thanks" email is the most positive I've ever got, my previous reports were me with statements like "we have some very experienced users who haven't had this issue" when there were clear safety problems with earlier scanner implementations (The scanner was producing axial slices at a location different to where I asked for them to be, on a spine patient due in theatre - good luck operating on the correct vertebral level). Its FDA approved and its on the latest software release. I have undergone manufacturer training and have had additional training half a dozen times at my request and at the manufacturers request after my bug reports were met with "you're doing it wrong". I'm not, the software is buggy and I have some excellent and amazing screen shots and camera phone video of the bugs in action.
Re: Fatal Dose – Radiation Deaths linked to AECL Computer Errors (1994)
#6The Therac-25 case study is a tragic one, but fortunately it is not forgotten. I work on medical devices (and have worked on radiotherapy devices previously) and the standards for quality systems and regulatory hurdles (which I occasionally see bemoaned here on HN) are there with good reason. In fact, Therac-25 is often cited when training new hires on quality (as required with any ISO-13485 compliant QMS).
Re: Fatal Dose – Radiation Deaths linked to AECL Computer Errors (1994)
#7>>As a result of the Therac-25 accidents, the FDA now requires documentation on software for new medical and other products: a paper trail, in other words, that can be examined by an independent body and retraced for flaws. Anyone have any idea if this can be looked at by the end user? I'm not a radiation technologist of the flavour mentioned in the article, I'm on the diagnostic side. I use an MR scanner with numero…
Re: Fatal Dose – Radiation Deaths linked to AECL Computer Errors (1994)
#8Knowing about, and thinking about, the ACM Code of Ethics, Stuxnet, Therac-25, the Windows Security Patch Policy, and other problems our programming culture have come across is important. Realizing that the code we write can affect people in both positive and negative ways on a long and short term scale is something that can change both your product and how you build a product.
Re: Fatal Dose – Radiation Deaths linked to AECL Computer Errors (1994)
#9>>As a result of the Therac-25 accidents, the FDA now requires documentation on software for new medical and other products: a paper trail, in other words, that can be examined by an independent body and retraced for flaws. Anyone have any idea if this can be looked at by the end user? I'm not a radiation technologist of the flavour mentioned in the article, I'm on the diagnostic side. I use an MR scanner with numero…
Time to get in touch with the press. 25 bugs in something health-critical? They'll have a field day.
Re: Fatal Dose – Radiation Deaths linked to AECL Computer Errors (1994)
#10>>As a result of the Therac-25 accidents, the FDA now requires documentation on software for new medical and other products: a paper trail, in other words, that can be examined by an independent body and retraced for flaws. Anyone have any idea if this can be looked at by the end user? I'm not a radiation technologist of the flavour mentioned in the article, I'm on the diagnostic side. I use an MR scanner with numero…