New York’s Shadow Transit
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New York’s Shadow Transit
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#2Url changed from http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/currency/2014/07/inter..., which points to this.
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#3Interesting, I've never heard of these operating in New Zealand or Australia. I've heard of people operating illegal taxis but they're very far and few. It could be a fair opportunity given the current state of public transport in Auckland, NZ.
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#4It seems *similar unlicensed busses are gone now: http://www.fastcompany.com/1839333/business-lessons-chinatow...
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#5It seems *similar unlicensed busses are gone now: http://www.fastcompany.com/1839333/business-lessons-chinatow...
These are vans operating in the city, not the buses of the fastcompany article.
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#6It seems *similar unlicensed busses are gone now: http://www.fastcompany.com/1839333/business-lessons-chinatow...
The buses in your story are between different cities and are proper buses. The buses in the original story are within New York (and out to New Jersey), and are mainly vans. Different people and services.
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#7It's not just that the immigrant and minority communities served by shadow transit lack access to public transportation - those areas are also severely underserved by cabs.
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#8I don't know how the regulations worked in Istanbul, but they were very common even with the other transit options, and worked very well. I'd go from Kadikoy to Taksim and back late at night and walk or take the taxi for the rest. For 3 bucks (6 lira) they would leave when full, approximately every 5 minutes, and were pretty organized.
This is one of the areas where we could use a better public-private partnership in our cities.
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#9Very common in Russia also, the vans usually put the number of the official route on the window, so you'd know exactly the route that's going to be taken. Wish they had this Sydney, but the government is anal on taxing and regulating people. So no micro businesses for Sydney :(
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#10I don't know how the regulations worked in Istanbul, but they were very common even with the other transit options, and worked very well. I'd go from Kadikoy to Taksim and back late at night and walk or take the taxi for the rest. For 3 bucks (6 lira) they would leave when full, approximately every 5 minutes, and were pretty organized. This is one of the areas where we could use a better public-private partnership in…
Yup - dolmus in Turkey, sherut in Israel, servees in Jordan/Egypt - these are common throughout the Middle East, usually using very similar models of vans. A common experience I've had in all three countries is waiting near the start of a route for enough people to arrive to make it worth the driver's gas to head off.