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77 Years Later, Yacht Repeats Win in Trans-Pacific Race (2013)

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Re: 77 Years Later, Yacht Repeats Win in Trans-Pacific Race (2013)

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I did the Clipper Race [0] in 2007 when Hannah Jenner was the skipper aboard Glasgow. I never sailed directly under her but I sailed with plenty of others who did and they had nothing but praise for her abilities. I was also on a boat racing against her's numerous times so I've witnessed the sailing aspect firsthand.

At one point her boat had a man overboard in a force 6 in the southern ocean. It's a testament to her skill that he survived. It requires true leadership to keep your cool in those sorts of conditions.

[0] http://www.clipperroundtheworld.com/

[1] http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/139315

Re: 77 Years Later, Yacht Repeats Win in Trans-Pacific Race (2013)

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Alas, she only won due to the massive headstart such a boat is afforded.

> Dorade’s finishing time in the Transpac race this year was 12 days 5 hours 23 minutes 18 seconds

> Dorade started a week earlier than Pyewacket, which finished the course in 8 days 15 hours 41 minutes 3 seconds.

Still, nice to see wooden hulls aren't dead.

Re: 77 Years Later, Yacht Repeats Win in Trans-Pacific Race (2013)

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Alas, she only won due to the massive headstart such a boat is afforded. > Dorade’s finishing time in the Transpac race this year was 12 days 5 hours 23 minutes 18 seconds > Dorade started a week earlier than Pyewacket, which finished the course in 8 days 15 hours 41 minutes 3 seconds. Still, nice to see wooden hulls aren't dead.

Yeah, that probably shouldn't be buried near the end of the article. I felt deceived. Obviously I don't follow sailing, but it seems really silly that they could lose by 4 days and still "win."

Re: 77 Years Later, Yacht Repeats Win in Trans-Pacific Race (2013)

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Re: 77 Years Later, Yacht Repeats Win in Trans-Pacific Race (2013)

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post #5

Alas, she only won due to the massive headstart such a boat is afforded. > Dorade’s finishing time in the Transpac race this year was 12 days 5 hours 23 minutes 18 seconds > Dorade started a week earlier than Pyewacket, which finished the course in 8 days 15 hours 41 minutes 3 seconds. Still, nice to see wooden hulls aren't dead.

It would be interesting to read how these handicaps are calculated. Seems like a game-able system.

Re: 77 Years Later, Yacht Repeats Win in Trans-Pacific Race (2013)

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Alas, she only won due to the massive headstart such a boat is afforded. > Dorade’s finishing time in the Transpac race this year was 12 days 5 hours 23 minutes 18 seconds > Dorade started a week earlier than Pyewacket, which finished the course in 8 days 15 hours 41 minutes 3 seconds. Still, nice to see wooden hulls aren't dead.

It would be interesting to read how these handicaps are calculated. Seems like a game-able system.

Of course it[1] is gameable. Yachts are designed specifically to perform well under it.

Nevertheless its a reasonable rule system, that tends to produce mostly decent boats. Its quite impressive that a yacht from the 20's can be competitive under it.

Incidentally, handicap racing is quite normal in yachting. However, most races have a separate 'outright' division, and depending on the race that often attracts more attention

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Measurement_Syste... is the most common system.

Re: 77 Years Later, Yacht Repeats Win in Trans-Pacific Race (2013)

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Alas, she only won due to the massive headstart such a boat is afforded. > Dorade’s finishing time in the Transpac race this year was 12 days 5 hours 23 minutes 18 seconds > Dorade started a week earlier than Pyewacket, which finished the course in 8 days 15 hours 41 minutes 3 seconds. Still, nice to see wooden hulls aren't dead.

Yeah, that probably shouldn't be buried near the end of the article. I felt deceived. Obviously I don't follow sailing, but it seems really silly that they could lose by 4 days and still "win."

That's not "win", that's simply win. They won by the rules. The rules take into account all kinds of factors and there is nobody from any one of the other crews that would put that win in quotes detracting from it like you did.

The whole idea of handicapping is to make the race more fair, not less so.

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