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Banned TED Talk: Rupert Sheldrake – The Science Delusion

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Post by station909 » Sat, Jun 14, 2014, 7:35 AM UTC

Why do we blindly believe that matter is unconscious? Or that nature is purposeless?? Because the science tells us so and also tells us to believe in many other so called "facts" which were never proven or disregarded. I also had the time to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1SLQwHDog&feature=youtube_gdata He tells in words what I have felt for a long time already.

Banned TED Talk: Rupert Sheldrake – The Science Delusion
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Post by station909 » Sat, Jun 14, 2014, 7:39 AM UTC

I also found this interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1SLQwHDog&feature=youtube_... He tells in words what I have felt for a long time already.

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Post by FallFastForFun » Sat, Jun 14, 2014, 8:30 AM UTC

station909 wrote: post #2

I also found this interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1SLQwHDog&feature=youtube_... He tells in words what I have felt for a long time already.

Its interesting but I just don't find it satisfying. At an emotional level, science doesn't satisfy me when it comes to questions of existence. And I feel tempted to run towards a theory such as the ones Sheldrake puts forwards but I don't find it very satisfying either.

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Post by token78 » Sat, Jun 14, 2014, 8:37 AM UTC

Why does this have any votes? The talk clearly isn't banned or unavailable - that's a ridiculous and hyperbolic claim. It's a TEDx talk, which are independent events where speakers are not in fact vetted by TED. Meanwhile TED can and does have a say on the content hosted under its own banner.

They made the decision not to do so with this talk because the Sheldrake's talk is premised on a number of false assumptions about the way science operates, and for the factual errors relied upon in the talk.

They did so openly and transparently, inviting public contributions to the discussion before making their decision -http://www.ted.com/conversations/16894/rupert_sheldrake_s_te...

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Post by dueprocess » Sat, Jun 14, 2014, 9:01 AM UTC

There's something to this argument, and I'm sympathetic towards it. I just wish Rupert had said it better.

Science is cruel and rife with incompetence and fraudulence, but the issue needs to be attacked with hard facts.

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Post by station909 » Sat, Jun 14, 2014, 11:46 AM UTC

FallFastForFun wrote: post #3

station909 wrote: post #2

I also found this interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR1SLQwHDog&feature=youtube_... He tells in words what I have felt for a long time already.

Its interesting but I just don't find it satisfying. At an emotional level, science doesn't satisfy me when it comes to questions of existence. And I feel tempted to run towards a theory such as the ones Sheldrake puts forwards but I don't find it very satisfying either.

Maybe it's because as Sheldrake says, you can't prove or disproof those dogmas. Anyway, I hope that one day scientists will learn to question everything. Even the very foundation of science. Otherwise our life is meaningless and that's a shame to think so.

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Post by station909 » Sat, Jun 14, 2014, 11:59 AM UTC

token78 wrote: post #4

Why does this have any votes? The talk clearly isn't banned or unavailable - that's a ridiculous and hyperbolic claim. It's a TEDx talk, which are independent events where speakers are not in fact vetted by TED. Meanwhile TED can and does have a say on the content hosted under its own banner. They made the decision not to do so with this talk because the Sheldrake's talk is premised on a number of false assumptions a…

Thanks for the post! I didn't know such conversation existed. Diving into it to learn some more stuff.

This post is relevant because Sheldrake's talk on Ted was banned from Ted. You can still find it on Youtube though. Many people find it absurd, as do I.