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Confessions of a Full Stack DevOp

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Re: Confessions of a Full Stack DevOp

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> When done correctly, automation tools are giving [developers] time back — and helping out of this problem of needing to wear many hats.

I've found this to be the case both in my full-time job (enterprise/healthcare industry) and in my larger side projects. Using some simple tools to make sure both server environments and deployments are uniform/repeatable/known in a good state has given me much more time to focus on actually developing.

Additionally, there are times when certain features (especially surrounding performance and scalability) requires a deeper knowledge of part of your stack. Being a good developer requires you to be a specialist (in your primary language/tools) and generalist (in almost all other areas) at the same time.

Re: Confessions of a Full Stack DevOp

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I am a horseshoe crab. I am a sysadmin.

I can code, I do code, but I'm a much better sysadmin, mainly because I've been doing it as a dayjob. You want networking? I'll do that. you want multi gigabyte a second storage arrays? I'll do that. You want monitoring? I'll do that.

You want me to recompile python 3.3, naaa you can do that. I can, but you'll do better at it

Re: Confessions of a Full Stack DevOp

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Here's my unsolicited opinion:

Dehaan is pretty much spot on. Knupp's post seemed to first latch onto the idea that devops is about devs doing ops works. To add, I think Knupp should do a rewrite after listening to some devops cafe and food fight podcasts, if he really believes in what he wrote.

It's somewhat an unfair comparison though. If you're the author/creator of ansible you surely have spent a lot of time thinking and understanding what devops means. To be frank, I cannot tell if Knupps post is just link bait to sell his book.

The concept (and value) of the devops mindset & culture is less debatable in 2014 than in the past 5 years. Those who latch onto the totem pole model will simply get left behind while the rest of the industry moves on... or at least that's what they tell me!

Re: Confessions of a Full Stack DevOp

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Pet peeve: this URL is incorrect. When you're linking to an article on a blog, it's important to use the permalink for the specific entry (in this case it's http://www.ansible.com/blog/confessions-of-a-full-stack-devo... which admittedly wasn't easy to find - you had to click the heading on the article which lacks any clear visual way to tell that it's a link).

If you link to the blog homepage e.g. http://www.ansible.com/blog then in a few weeks time this post on Hacker News will no longer link to the correct content.

Re: Confessions of a Full Stack DevOp

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The last time I looked for a senior sysadmin -- less than a year ago -- I didn't get anyone who was comfortable programming in Perl/Python/Ruby until I started using the term DevOps. [1] via TFA

Ah, now I understand DevOps. Well, the sysadmin who can personally automate his job through programming--this is very productive person.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7593681

Re: Confessions of a Full Stack DevOp

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This is pretty much a good article on DevOps. In my words i see DevOps as a bridge spanning the kernel, systems, networks, qa, packaging, and deployment. for a highly optimal system all these need to be planned for with care and attention. DevOps is a tough and long learning to be good at.
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