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Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: the cloud platform of choice

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Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: the cloud platform of choice

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Really don't know what to do about 14.04 landing. I maintain a few systems which are in devops territory on top of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, a single desktop machine and a laptop. 12.04 is EOL in 2017 and we plan to replace them next year (we operate a 3 year standard cycle).

With the other major distributions moving towards systemd and eventually wayland (that includes the base of Ubuntu: Debian), I'm not sure I really want to move onto 14.04 and continue this cycle further and risk it on Mir, Upstart, Unity and various other Canonical worldview items.

I'm considering ignoring this release and moving to CentOS 7 when it hits the ground.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: the cloud platform of choice

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post #2

Really don't know what to do about 14.04 landing. I maintain a few systems which are in devops territory on top of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, a single desktop machine and a laptop. 12.04 is EOL in 2017 and we plan to replace them next year (we operate a 3 year standard cycle). With the other major distributions moving towards systemd and eventually wayland (that includes the base of Ubuntu: Debian), I'm not sure I really want…

I am also archlinux fan but this could be game changer.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: the cloud platform of choice

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I really hope we get a contender for the linux servers space. Maybe it will be Canonical, maybe not, but having Red Hat/CentOS everywhere (in new deployments at least) is starting to tire me.

Ya standardization sucks. I miss having to rewrite scripts for every pet Linux distro the admin decided to use.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: the cloud platform of choice

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post #2

Really don't know what to do about 14.04 landing. I maintain a few systems which are in devops territory on top of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, a single desktop machine and a laptop. 12.04 is EOL in 2017 and we plan to replace them next year (we operate a 3 year standard cycle). With the other major distributions moving towards systemd and eventually wayland (that includes the base of Ubuntu: Debian), I'm not sure I really want…

I also have concerns about this sort of thing. On the other hand as far as I can tell Ubuntu is still the easiest, fastest way to get a Desktop environment up and running on a new machine, one that looks decent (e.g. fonts) and one that plays nicely with hardware.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: the cloud platform of choice

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post #2

Really don't know what to do about 14.04 landing. I maintain a few systems which are in devops territory on top of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, a single desktop machine and a laptop. 12.04 is EOL in 2017 and we plan to replace them next year (we operate a 3 year standard cycle). With the other major distributions moving towards systemd and eventually wayland (that includes the base of Ubuntu: Debian), I'm not sure I really want…

Ubuntu is also now moving to systemd, following its Debian base: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316

Assuming that you're not a toolkit (or further down the stack) developer, can you explain why Mir affects you?

What other "Canonical worldview items" affect you?

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: the cloud platform of choice

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post #5
post #3

I really hope we get a contender for the linux servers space. Maybe it will be Canonical, maybe not, but having Red Hat/CentOS everywhere (in new deployments at least) is starting to tire me.

Ya standardization sucks. I miss having to rewrite scripts for every pet Linux distro the admin decided to use.

More standardization, less complication.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: the cloud platform of choice

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post #2

Really don't know what to do about 14.04 landing. I maintain a few systems which are in devops territory on top of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, a single desktop machine and a laptop. 12.04 is EOL in 2017 and we plan to replace them next year (we operate a 3 year standard cycle). With the other major distributions moving towards systemd and eventually wayland (that includes the base of Ubuntu: Debian), I'm not sure I really want…

Shuttleworth has announced Ubuntu will be moving to systemd. 14.04 is also the first version to have a Ubuntu GNOME spin if you want that. KDE/Xfce/etc are also easily available. That leaves Mir as the real potential difference going forward.

Re: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS: the cloud platform of choice

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Until now I agreed and have used Ubuntu for several years. I was however taken by surprise by how out of the mainstream Ubuntu seemed to security folks when Heartbleed was being identified and it's fix promulgated. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7592244

It left me wondering if Redhat's contributions to the security community give it a leg up. Any "cloud platform of choice" needs to be a first tier security platform. The Heartbleed bug shows that it may not be.

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