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My experience at a coworking space in Osaka, Japan

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Re: My experience at a coworking space in Osaka, Japan

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Looking at the photos, I started to think, is there any young developers who use PCs instead of Mac's, any photo of a coworking space I saw lately shows that everybody is using Mac.

Macs just work. I was an Ubuntu user for over 10 years, first on an older Thinkpad (rock solid but eventually slow), later on a decent HP (with a little hardware problem).

I bought Airs for my wife and daughter. I would help them with something, then return to my machine, and feel a little more frustrated each time.

Airs have better hardware, better software, a better user experience, and are rock solid (if you don't hit them too hard). They don't get in your way, they just do their thing.

Macs are no-fuss machines that allow you to do your work without requiring you to babysit the machine. I'm no fanboi, I just recognize quality when I use it.

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Looking at the photos, I started to think, is there any young developers who use PCs instead of Mac's, any photo of a coworking space I saw lately shows that everybody is using Mac.

Macs just work. I was an Ubuntu user for over 10 years, first on an older Thinkpad (rock solid but eventually slow), later on a decent HP (with a little hardware problem). I bought Airs for my wife and daughter. I would help them with something, then return to my machine, and feel a little more frustrated each time. Airs have better hardware, better software, a better user experience, and are rock solid (if you don't…

I've been doing IT for ~13 years.

When I first started in my late teens, I was a hard core Linux user. I then moved over to a Thinkpad T40 (which I loved, and still have in a box to this day, with Windows XP on it).

About 4 years ago, I was issued a Macbook Pro while doing work at a DOE lab; I've never gone back since. It just works (as /u/PeterWhittaker stated). I've since bought my parents and my wife Air's.

I really didn't add significantly to the above comment, but wanted to be more verbose than "THIS". There is so much value in a tool that "just works".

Re: My experience at a coworking space in Osaka, Japan

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Looking at the photos, I started to think, is there any young developers who use PCs instead of Mac's, any photo of a coworking space I saw lately shows that everybody is using Mac.

More than "none", at least. My main machine is a Thinkpad T430s running Arch, and no matter how many times I've tried to flip over to a Mac, I don't like it and come back to Linux.

Still have a MBP because I need to port software to it, but my day-to-day ops are on my Thinkpad.

Re: My experience at a coworking space in Osaka, Japan

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Looking at the photos, I started to think, is there any young developers who use PCs instead of Mac's, any photo of a coworking space I saw lately shows that everybody is using Mac.

Hopefully, this helps to get more Mac software of the second class citizen list. Microsoft has traditionally lagged with support in Office. Recently, I wanted to buy Dragon Naturally Speaking for my Mac but it's missing the Python support, which I wanted to use to automate to of my work.

Re: My experience at a coworking space in Osaka, Japan

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Looking at the photos, I started to think, is there any young developers who use PCs instead of Mac's, any photo of a coworking space I saw lately shows that everybody is using Mac.

Macs just work. I was an Ubuntu user for over 10 years, first on an older Thinkpad (rock solid but eventually slow), later on a decent HP (with a little hardware problem). I bought Airs for my wife and daughter. I would help them with something, then return to my machine, and feel a little more frustrated each time. Airs have better hardware, better software, a better user experience, and are rock solid (if you don't…

Are Macs expensive in your country/city, related to PC?

I bought my first iMac one month ago, after using HP, Acer, etc. w/ Slackware for years.

Would like to acquire a Macbook Pro soon, just to give you an idea, a Macbook Pro, i7, 16 GB RAM, SSD 512 GB is around 2900 U$ here.

Re: My experience at a coworking space in Osaka, Japan

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Looking at the photos, I started to think, is there any young developers who use PCs instead of Mac's, any photo of a coworking space I saw lately shows that everybody is using Mac.

My rationale was always "I can run Windows on a Macbook, but not the other way around, and what if I ever need to write an iPhone app?"

Plus, trying to get Apache configured on a Windows box, and then transferring that knowledge to a Linux machine in the cloud somewhere, and wondering why everything breaks when you put it on production is really frustrating. (The first time you run into this, it's usually case-sensitive filenames...) Cygwin and MinGW can mitigate this, but add an additional level of complexity that really begs you to just run Ubuntu in a VM or buy a Macbook.

I think the more common thing is that if you are financially secure enough to quit your day job for four months, you probably have enough saved up to buy a Macbook or top-of-the-line Thinkpad. If you have a $500 netbook and you're in a co-working space, waiting for your computer to compile things might not be the most effective use of your time.

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