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Re: Xwayland

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I clicked through three levels of reference links and I still have no idea what Xwayland is, except that it is some kind of refactoring of the Linux graphics stack. Could someone please explain why people seem so excited about it?

Re: Xwayland

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post #3

I clicked through three levels of reference links and I still have no idea what Xwayland is, except that it is some kind of refactoring of the Linux graphics stack. Could someone please explain why people seem so excited about it?

The larger idea this fits into is getting rid of X11 all together. The inevitable replacement is Wayland.* One of the challenges of such a switch will that once you start using wayland, you'll have some older applications that cant talk to wayland, you'd have to start an X server to run that old application.

If you have a wayland session on your computer, you don't want to hit ctrl-alt-8 to switch over to an X session running that single application, and then switch back and forth to wayland to use every other program. It would be nice if there was a X server that worked as a wayland client and could put the X-only application on your wayland desktop. That's Xwayland.

* For a better explanation on ditching X, and what Wayland is: see this talk from one of the X dudes working on Wayland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44

Re: Xwayland

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post #3

I clicked through three levels of reference links and I still have no idea what Xwayland is, except that it is some kind of refactoring of the Linux graphics stack. Could someone please explain why people seem so excited about it?

from my limited understanding, it's supposed to replace the X display server which is bloated and not lean. One potential I see is it will be easier and more efficient to run applications in headless mode. I'd like to know more about Wayland.

Re: Xwayland

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post #3

I clicked through three levels of reference links and I still have no idea what Xwayland is, except that it is some kind of refactoring of the Linux graphics stack. Could someone please explain why people seem so excited about it?

It's the component that makes Wayland backwards-compatible with traditional X11, allowing traditional X11 apps to run under Wayland.

Re: Xwayland

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I'm shocked at how fast Wayland is coming together. It's inspiring to watch.

Could it be that competition is the mother of productivity?

Competition with what? Windows, OS X? Xorg?

Edit: Can't seem to reply to child, but Mir isn't really a credible competitor (See: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2014/03/more-on-why-display-serve... . Unfortunately Mir seems to be mostly NIH; everyone else is cooperating on Wayland.)

Re: Xwayland

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could it be that competition is the mother of productivity?

Competition with what? Windows, OS X? Xorg? Edit: Can't seem to reply to child, but Mir isn't really a credible competitor (See: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2014/03/more-on-why-display-serve... . Unfortunately Mir seems to be mostly NIH; everyone else is cooperating on Wayland.)

Canonicals Mir

Re: Xwayland

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I'm shocked at how fast Wayland is coming together. It's inspiring to watch.

Could it be that competition is the mother of productivity?

It's more that we have people working on it at several companies full-time now, including me.
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