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Re: Pluto Mail – Unsend Emails

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The linked article claims that an e-mail can be deleted from the recipient's email in-box, regardless of whether the recipient is running a Pluto client.

Earth to Pluto ... assuming the received e-mail is a classic plain-text e-mail, that's impossible. Either the recipient is running a Pluto-compliant client, in which case the claim is true, or the recipient is not running a Pluto-compliant client, in which case the claim is false.

The only way this could work is if the received e-mail has content linked to Pluto's site (example would be an HTML e-mail containing an iframe with hosted content), where the real e-mail is located. So ... they should be honest and say that.

Re: Pluto Mail – Unsend Emails

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The linked article claims that an e-mail can be deleted from the recipient's email in-box, regardless of whether the recipient is running a Pluto client. Earth to Pluto ... assuming the received e-mail is a classic plain-text e-mail, that's impossible. Either the recipient is running a Pluto-compliant client, in which case the claim is true, or the recipient is not running a Pluto-compliant client, in which case the…

I'm curious what approach they took, because iframes don't really work in email (the majority of the clients block them, including gmail which they use in their example). Another option would be an image rendering of the message, but that would be pretty annoying to the recipient for not being able to select, copy or re-flow text.

Re: Pluto Mail – Unsend Emails

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The linked article claims that an e-mail can be deleted from the recipient's email in-box, regardless of whether the recipient is running a Pluto client. Earth to Pluto ... assuming the received e-mail is a classic plain-text e-mail, that's impossible. Either the recipient is running a Pluto-compliant client, in which case the claim is true, or the recipient is not running a Pluto-compliant client, in which case the…

I'm curious what approach they took, because iframes don't really work in email (the majority of the clients block them, including gmail which they use in their example). Another option would be an image rendering of the message, but that would be pretty annoying to the recipient for not being able to select, copy or re-flow text.

They do images, with a link "click here to view as text" that redirects to sendpluto's web viewer.

Re: Pluto Mail – Unsend Emails

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The linked article claims that an e-mail can be deleted from the recipient's email in-box, regardless of whether the recipient is running a Pluto client. Earth to Pluto ... assuming the received e-mail is a classic plain-text e-mail, that's impossible. Either the recipient is running a Pluto-compliant client, in which case the claim is true, or the recipient is not running a Pluto-compliant client, in which case the…

I'm curious what approach they took, because iframes don't really work in email (the majority of the clients block them, including gmail which they use in their example). Another option would be an image rendering of the message, but that would be pretty annoying to the recipient for not being able to select, copy or re-flow text.

Based on https://www.sendpluto.com/help, it looks like they could be creating images of the email text and sending the images in an email. That way, they're free to manipulate the image even after the email is sent.

Re: Pluto Mail – Unsend Emails

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I'm curious what approach they took, because iframes don't really work in email (the majority of the clients block them, including gmail which they use in their example). Another option would be an image rendering of the message, but that would be pretty annoying to the recipient for not being able to select, copy or re-flow text.

They do images, with a link "click here to view as text" that redirects to sendpluto's web viewer.

Now that google fetches the images from its own servers once and then renders for all, would this even work?

Re: Pluto Mail – Unsend Emails

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I'm curious what approach they took, because iframes don't really work in email (the majority of the clients block them, including gmail which they use in their example). Another option would be an image rendering of the message, but that would be pretty annoying to the recipient for not being able to select, copy or re-flow text.

Based on https://www.sendpluto.com/help , it looks like they could be creating images of the email text and sending the images in an email. That way, they're free to manipulate the image even after the email is sent.

doesn't gmail cache all images?

Re: Pluto Mail – Unsend Emails

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious what approach they took, because iframes don't really work in email (the majority of the clients block them, including gmail which they use in their example). Another option would be an image rendering of the message, but that would be pretty annoying to the recipient for not being able to select, copy or re-flow text.

Based on https://www.sendpluto.com/help , it looks like they could be creating images of the email text and sending the images in an email. That way, they're free to manipulate the image even after the email is sent.

This would only for images linked back to Pluto correct? If they simply sent an image surely they can't come into my inbox and modify files?

Re: Pluto Mail – Unsend Emails

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on https://www.sendpluto.com/help , it looks like they could be creating images of the email text and sending the images in an email. That way, they're free to manipulate the image even after the email is sent.

This would only for images linked back to Pluto correct? If they simply sent an image surely they can't come into my inbox and modify files?

Correct. The scheme requires some way to link the received e-mail's content to Pluto's servers. This must be so because it's not possible to delete or modify an independent email (i.e. one without links) once it's been delivered.

Re: Pluto Mail – Unsend Emails

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious what approach they took, because iframes don't really work in email (the majority of the clients block them, including gmail which they use in their example). Another option would be an image rendering of the message, but that would be pretty annoying to the recipient for not being able to select, copy or re-flow text.

They do images, with a link "click here to view as text" that redirects to sendpluto's web viewer.

If that's true, then it's misleading to call it e-mail. All the recipient gets is a link to an offsite database.
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