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Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by pingec »

Does anyone else get the impression that MS shifted a lot of its attention to web developers?

There is an incredible amount of web technologies and dev tools coming from ms that are being presented at Build 2014. In fact so many that I'm having a hard time keeping up...

Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by bananas »

Perhaps I'm paranoid but I'm seeing a lot of tentacles extending around a few ecosystems from Microsoft. I see lots of praise but some rational analysis and caution might be worth considering.

For ref, I deal with Microsoft a lot and wrote a ton of c# over the least decade (more than anything else probably) so I'm not biased against necessarily but all-encompassing announcements like the ones over the last couple of weeks make me suspicious.

Edit: to extend my thoughts on this some more:

I don't think we're seeing embrace and extend. I think we're seeing "go on - use our tooling". Once you're in a tool ecosystem it's hard to get out of. I mean really hard. Same goes with cloud ecosystems which neatly integrate with their tooling. Their offering is to host all of your stuff (Azure) and mediate between you and what you're working on (Office/VS/Xamarin potentially).

A fully heterogenous system with a sole vendor mediating your access becomes an interesting situation when for political, financial or legal reasons you want or need to leave.

Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by drawkbox »

pingec wrote: post #4

Does anyone else get the impression that MS shifted a lot of its attention to web developers? There is an incredible amount of web technologies and dev tools coming from ms that are being presented at Build 2014. In fact so many that I'm having a hard time keeping up...

Their new OS in a sense is Azure, they want developers of all platforms to run on their cloud. All of these tools have an easy tie to Azure which isn't bad, but the lock-in is happening farther up at the service level now. Web developers are huge in that area.

Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by GravityWell »

bananas wrote: post #5

Perhaps I'm paranoid but I'm seeing a lot of tentacles extending around a few ecosystems from Microsoft. I see lots of praise but some rational analysis and caution might be worth considering. For ref, I deal with Microsoft a lot and wrote a ton of c# over the least decade (more than anything else probably) so I'm not biased against necessarily but all-encompassing announcements like the ones over the last couple of…

I'm hardly an MS fanboy, and I'm not sure what announcements you're referring to, but it's hard for me to see a downside to this.

Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by skrebbel »

mavdi wrote: post #6

It's an attempt to bring back developer to windows platform. I personally don't know a single serious web developer using windows unless they are coding in .NET.

That might say more about you than about the world's developers.

I didn't see the stats, but most developers I know use Windows. Like, 60% or so. Different area, different industry?

Re: Node.js Tools for Visual Studio

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Post by mavdi »

skrebbel wrote: post #9
mavdi wrote: post #6

It's an attempt to bring back developer to windows platform. I personally don't know a single serious web developer using windows unless they are coding in .NET.

That might say more about you than about the world's developers. I didn't see the stats, but most developers I know use Windows. Like, 60% or so. Different area, different industry?

I see a lot of frontend and backend developers. Node, Ruby, Java, general Frontend, Clojure, JS and not a single windows user.
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