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Japanese Toilets: The Future Called 30 Years Ago

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Re: Japanese Toilets: The Future Called 30 Years Ago

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This is one of those things that long-time expats that live in Japan often take back with them when they leave. Another is the practice of removing your (utterly filthy, inevitably) outdoor shoes when you enter the house.

I read Shogun as a kid (great book, for a little kid) and going back home to the USA and using the toilet there always reminds me of the scenes where the European sailors that shipwrecked in Japan sit around scratching their fleas and scoffing at the Japs' grotesque habit of bathing every day... gross

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After using the toilet, do you wash your hands, or just wipe them?

You've just demonstrated why washing toilets are superior. I cannot understand our misplaced, hollow pride in not adopting something which simply works better. I've even heard some especially crazy people try to say the japanese toilets are "perverted" - the hold tradition has on some people is just insane.

Japanese toilets are simply better. For some bizarre reason we've resisted adopting them here. It boggles the mind.

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This is one of those things that long-time expats that live in Japan often take back with them when they leave. Another is the practice of removing your (utterly filthy, inevitably) outdoor shoes when you enter the house. I read Shogun as a kid (great book, for a little kid) and going back home to the USA and using the toilet there always reminds me of the scenes where the European sailors that shipwrecked in Japan s…

Never met any Americans/westerners/etc who wear shoes in the house. They all walk barefoot.

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I tried, liked and missed Japanese toilets. I certainly wasn't going to be installing a $1000 Toto in my house, but I waited too long to take a chance on a cheap bidet. For <$50 you can get a bidet on Amazon which, though little more than a valve and a spout, works pretty well.

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This is one of those things that long-time expats that live in Japan often take back with them when they leave. Another is the practice of removing your (utterly filthy, inevitably) outdoor shoes when you enter the house. I read Shogun as a kid (great book, for a little kid) and going back home to the USA and using the toilet there always reminds me of the scenes where the European sailors that shipwrecked in Japan s…

Never met any Americans/westerners/etc who wear shoes in the house. They all walk barefoot.

Don't know where you live but removing shoes is uncommon practice in my experience.

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After using the toilet, do you wash your hands, or just wipe them? You've just demonstrated why washing toilets are superior. I cannot understand our misplaced, hollow pride in not adopting something which simply works better. I've even heard some especially crazy people try to say the japanese toilets are "perverted" - the hold tradition has on some people is just insane. Japanese toilets are simply better. For some…

I also used to think of Japanese toilets as weird , and overly complex for the task (that may be partially true) but after buying a 35 dollar bidet attachment for my apartment toilet, using any other bathroom feels barbaric. I've resorted to carrying moist wipes when out of town, but even those are a far cry from the efficiency and cleanliness afforded by a washlet/bidet.

I would love for the rest of the country to get over whatever biases or anxiety keeps us from mainstream adoption of an objectively superior system for bathroom hygiene.

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If you're thinking about buying one of these, I can highly recommend the Toto S300e (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009IJ2LM4) or, if you live in Asia, the TCF4722CS (http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=23047236820).

These 'washlet' toilet seats can be retro-fitted to normal toilets. It's really easy as long as the flush-water inlet to your toilet has a standard fitting. Oh, and assuming you have a suitable power socket near the toilet. The manual recommends a GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupter) socket.

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Never met any Americans/westerners/etc who wear shoes in the house. They all walk barefoot.

Don't know where you live but removing shoes is uncommon practice in my experience.

Especially in rural areas, where I would say 9 out of 10 people leave their shoes on inside the house.

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If you're thinking about buying one of these, I can highly recommend the Toto S300e ( http://www.amazon.com/dp/B009IJ2LM4 ) or, if you live in Asia, the TCF4722CS ( http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=23047236820 ). These 'washlet' toilet seats can be retro-fitted to normal toilets. It's really easy as long as the flush-water inlet to your toilet has a standard fitting. Oh, and assuming you have a suitable power socke…

Or if you can't afford a 1000 dollar heated/programmable washlet, you can get a no frills cold water attachment for 35 dollars on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001KKRCFA/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=...

I have a similar one and it works great (though it's not as luxuroius as a Toto).

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