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I didn't leave France, I moved to the US

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Re: I didn't leave France, I moved to the US

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"Tax cuts for startups are real, and it means a developer in France will basically cost you half the price of a US one, and there is good chance he’ll be better :) "

In the last paragraph the author stated that France had it's share of problems, but then it states that their developers are "better." Really? Who has had a huge respectable dominance in the IT world in the last few decades? How much have the French contributed to that?

Lastly the article goes to claim that "the us is in a downfall and France will lead the way."

Next they'll tell me that they're going to take over the startup scene in Berlin.

Re: I didn't leave France, I moved to the US

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Are french developers really better than US ones though? We have EPITA, EPITECH, and the recent 42. But besides that I feel like the CS formation of our universities is very poor... I know a lot of people who've done/are doing CS in university, and their level is pretty low I would say. But maybe I tend to overestimate the US coders' level...

Re: I didn't leave France, I moved to the US

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post #2

Is there any guide about how to leave your country and achive your dreams?

I'm doing it now, and have been for the past 6 months.

Basically, you save up, sell what you don't need, pack the essentials, buy a plane ticket, and get on the plane. Pretty straightforward, really. Depending on where you go, you may also need to apply for a visa ahead of time.

Re: I didn't leave France, I moved to the US

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post #3

"Tax cuts for startups are real, and it means a developer in France will basically cost you half the price of a US one, and there is good chance he’ll be better :) " In the last paragraph the author stated that France had it's share of problems, but then it states that their developers are "better." Really? Who has had a huge respectable dominance in the IT world in the last few decades? How much have the French cont…

"Who has had a huge respectable dominance in the IT world in the last few decades?"

Umm, Google does? This fact doesn't help you the slightest when you're competing with them hiring developers for your itsy bitsy startup.

In France perhaps developers have less Googles, Facebooks and Dropboxes to choose from so you can indeed access better developers. Or maybe it isn't so. Still worth considering.

Could not find the downfall thing.

Re: I didn't leave France, I moved to the US

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post #3

"Tax cuts for startups are real, and it means a developer in France will basically cost you half the price of a US one, and there is good chance he’ll be better :) " In the last paragraph the author stated that France had it's share of problems, but then it states that their developers are "better." Really? Who has had a huge respectable dominance in the IT world in the last few decades? How much have the French cont…

Calm down there, u know how big france is compared to the states?

And if u take europe as a whole (equivalent population more or less) and compare it to the states u would probably get equal if not more innovation in europe in the last 50 years.

Lol at huge respectable dominance...

Re: I didn't leave France, I moved to the US

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Is it actually true that "a developer in France will basically cost you half the price of a US one"? I have always been under the impression that labor was a lot more expensive in Europe (and particularly France) because of high taxes and a large amount of social/welfare contributions.

This is not to say that there aren't good reasons for having these contributions or that workers in one place or the other are necessarily better "value", but I have never heard anybody argue that labor in Europe is significantly cheaper.

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