Why I'm Boycotting Mozilla Products

I notice that your site uses JavaScript. Did you know that Brendan Eich invented JavaScript? For consistency, you should not only remove JS from your site but also boycott every other site that uses it, including this one.

Re: Why I'm Boycotting Mozilla Products

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Post by purringmeow » Sat, Mar 29, 2014, 5:57 PM UTC

Has B.Eich done anything do expose his views in the workplace? I don't think so. It's unfair to push your political/societal ideas on others in the company and demand they conform to them. I am saying that as a note to some employees demanding B.Eich to resign, because of the donation he made.

It's getting a bit ridiculous how some people are getting publicly bashed, because of their views. There is clear separation between the person with his views and the company with its vision.

Re: Why I'm Boycotting Mozilla Products

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Post by jknupp » Sat, Mar 29, 2014, 6:01 PM UTC

phpnode wrote: post #4

I notice that your site uses JavaScript. Did you know that Brendan Eich invented JavaScript? For consistency, you should not only remove JS from your site but also boycott every other site that uses it, including this one.

I agree. I'm not being consistent in my views. I'm going to continue to use JavaScript, but I don't the Eich should be running Mozilla. Humans are complicated.

Re: Why I'm Boycotting Mozilla Products

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Post by Pacabel » Sat, Mar 29, 2014, 6:02 PM UTC

One thing I've noticed a lot of with many of the arguments regarding this particular incident is blatant contradiction and hypocrisy. While these aren't unusual, they're particularly bad in this case.

This article, for instance, states the following: "Indeed, any right withheld from any group of people must be rallied against."

Yet the author makes that very claim in an article that basically suggests that people should not have the right to oppose homosexuality or gay marriage, and should not have the right merely to express such beliefs. He should be rallying against his own article and his own stance, in fact.

I'm not suggesting that he or anyone else should be denied the right to hold or to express contradictory or hypocritical viewpoints, of course. But the use of such arguments does make it hard to take one seriously, regardless of what the issue at hand is, and regardless of the position being expressed.

Re: Why I'm Boycotting Mozilla Products

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Post by jknupp » Sat, Mar 29, 2014, 6:10 PM UTC

Pacabel wrote: post #7

One thing I've noticed a lot of with many of the arguments regarding this particular incident is blatant contradiction and hypocrisy. While these aren't unusual, they're particularly bad in this case. This article, for instance, states the following: "Indeed, any right withheld from any group of people must be rallied against." Yet the author makes that very claim in an article that basically suggests that people sho…

Notice I never said "He should never be allowed to state his opinion." He's free to do so, and did. And in doing so made a public statement about his views. If you believe basic human rights should be denied to a group of individuals, I have an issue with that.

Re: Why I'm Boycotting Mozilla Products

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Post by natch » Sat, Mar 29, 2014, 6:13 PM UTC

Pacabel wrote: post #7

One thing I've noticed a lot of with many of the arguments regarding this particular incident is blatant contradiction and hypocrisy. While these aren't unusual, they're particularly bad in this case. This article, for instance, states the following: "Indeed, any right withheld from any group of people must be rallied against." Yet the author makes that very claim in an article that basically suggests that people sho…

People are entitled to their views. But some views are not conducive to good leadership.

Re: Why I'm Boycotting Mozilla Products

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Post by natch » Sat, Mar 29, 2014, 6:16 PM UTC

purringmeow wrote: post #5

Has B.Eich done anything do expose his views in the workplace? I don't think so. It's unfair to push your political/societal ideas on others in the company and demand they conform to them. I am saying that as a note to some employees demanding B.Eich to resign, because of the donation he made. It's getting a bit ridiculous how some people are getting publicly bashed, because of their views. There is clear separation…

My personal views outside of work have little bearing on my ability to do my job.

But then, I'm not a CEO.

CEOs have to be leaders, and their personal views, separate or not, are very relevant to their ability to lead.