David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
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David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
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Re: David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
#2Google Voice is a threat to AT&T and every other potential carrier for the iPhone. Maybe AT&T didn't really have anything directly to do with GV being yanked but it sure isn't going to make carriers around the world happy to have the iphone on their network if it can go around their revenue generating functions.
I'd love to have the iPhone on Verizon but how much will they want the iPhone if it is a trojan horse that makes them lose MMS,SMS and international long distance revenue?
Re: David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
#3Yup! I didn't renew my AT&T contract in favor of Google Voice. Whenever I find an ~iTouch/Android (Zii EGG!) portable that does what I want over WiFi I'll happily avoid larcenous SMS fees.
I'd say that's a good threat to AT&T.
Re: David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
#4Google Voice is a threat to AT&T and every other potential carrier for the iPhone. Maybe AT&T didn't really have anything directly to do with GV being yanked but it sure isn't going to make carriers around the world happy to have the iphone on their network if it can go around their revenue generating functions. I'd love to have the iPhone on Verizon but how much will they want the iPhone if it is a trojan horse that…
Does Verizon do GSM?
Re: David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
#5Yup! I didn't renew my AT&T contract in favor of Google Voice. Whenever I find an ~iTouch/Android (Zii EGG!) portable that does what I want over WiFi I'll happily avoid larcenous SMS fees. I'd say that's a good threat to AT&T.
WiFi isn't as useful as people think but not having any text charges because you're using the regular data plan is great.
Re: David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
#6Google Voice is a threat to AT&T and every other potential carrier for the iPhone. Maybe AT&T didn't really have anything directly to do with GV being yanked but it sure isn't going to make carriers around the world happy to have the iphone on their network if it can go around their revenue generating functions. I'd love to have the iPhone on Verizon but how much will they want the iPhone if it is a trojan horse that…
Does Verizon do GSM?
No, and they're notorious for crippling phone OS's.
Re: David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
#7Yup! I didn't renew my AT&T contract in favor of Google Voice. Whenever I find an ~iTouch/Android (Zii EGG!) portable that does what I want over WiFi I'll happily avoid larcenous SMS fees. I'd say that's a good threat to AT&T.
WiFi isn't as useful as people think but not having any text charges because you're using the regular data plan is great.
I disagree. I love the WiFi on my G1.
It's all but replaced my home laptop for gmail/twitter.
Re: David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
#8Google Voice is a threat to AT&T and every other potential carrier for the iPhone. Maybe AT&T didn't really have anything directly to do with GV being yanked but it sure isn't going to make carriers around the world happy to have the iphone on their network if it can go around their revenue generating functions. I'd love to have the iPhone on Verizon but how much will they want the iPhone if it is a trojan horse that…
Google Voice is a threat to AT&T and every other potential carrier for the iPhone. Maybe AT&T didn't really have anything directly to do with GV being yanked but it sure isn't going to make carriers around the world happy to have the iphone on their network if it can go around their revenue generating functions.
How? Most people don't make international calls with their cell-phone. All Google Voice calls count as normal calls, and subtract minutes from your cell-phone plan, just like all other normal calls. So if you are calling your friend to see why he's late to dinner, AT&T makes as much money off you with GV as they do otherwise. Same with text messages; when someone sends a text message to your Google Voice number, it's relayed to your cell-phone. If you pay to receive random text messages, you paid for that one too. (But I assume iPhone users have unlimited SMS messages, so who cares?)
Anyway, AT&T loses very little here, and users gain a lot in terms of convenience.
(There's also the argument that Google Voice makes it easier to ditch AT&T. That's true, but I ported my number from AT&T to T-Mobile yesterday, and it took literally 15 minutes, with no involvement from me other than "ok, do it". So it's already really easy to switch away from AT&T.)
All in all, I don't get it. I'm glad I have a MyTouch 3G instead of an iPhone. Google Voice works swimmingly for me (and I even get to see a cute tshirt-wearing android every time I make a call. Yay!)
I'm actually surprised T-Mobile doesn't block GV, as they have a lot more to lose. With "My Faves", you get unlimited calling to 5 arbitrary numbers. With your GV number as one of those, all your calls become free. Now that actually costs them money.
Re: David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
#9Google Voice is a threat to AT&T and every other potential carrier for the iPhone. Maybe AT&T didn't really have anything directly to do with GV being yanked but it sure isn't going to make carriers around the world happy to have the iphone on their network if it can go around their revenue generating functions. I'd love to have the iPhone on Verizon but how much will they want the iPhone if it is a trojan horse that…
Google Voice is a threat to AT&T and every other potential carrier for the iPhone. Maybe AT&T didn't really have anything directly to do with GV being yanked but it sure isn't going to make carriers around the world happy to have the iphone on their network if it can go around their revenue generating functions. How? Most people don't make international calls with their cell-phone. All Google Voice calls count as nor…
It gives AT&T less control, and increases the decoupling of a phone number from their service. You're correct that your number is transferable when you change contracts, but you have to change contracts. That is, the number is decoupled at the granularity of a contract. With GV, your number is decoupled from your AT&T phone even when you still have a contract. When someone tries to contact you, it's possible to decrease the likelihood that they will actually call your AT&T phone.
These are also the same reasons why I think it's a great idea.
Re: David Pogue: Is Google Voice a Threat to AT&T?
#10Google Voice is a threat to AT&T and every other potential carrier for the iPhone. Maybe AT&T didn't really have anything directly to do with GV being yanked but it sure isn't going to make carriers around the world happy to have the iphone on their network if it can go around their revenue generating functions. I'd love to have the iPhone on Verizon but how much will they want the iPhone if it is a trojan horse that…
Does Verizon do GSM?
No, but but they have massive plans to rollout LTE. LTE is a 4G technology with 4G being defined as IP address + data stream, no fancypants, no application (ala telephonery) has specific own physical/link layer.