How to Make Money from Spotify by Streaming Silence
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How to Make Money from Spotify by Streaming Silence
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#2Perhaps this is why Pandora has the annoying "I'm still listening" button, so they don't have to pay out royalties on things their users aren't listening to.
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#3Sounds like a great way to scam the advertisers. I doubt this will fly if it catches on since advertisers will be coming back at Spotify citing a big decrease in ad interaction.
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#4Perhaps this is why Pandora has the annoying "I'm still listening" button, so they don't have to pay out royalties on things their users aren't listening to.
Yep. This won't last for long.
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#5Perhaps this is why Pandora has the annoying "I'm still listening" button, so they don't have to pay out royalties on things their users aren't listening to.
Somewhat related: It's also probably why services like Netflix have the same thing built in ("I'm still watching" button after watching like 3 episodes of a show without clicking buttons), so some bot computer doesn't just stream and record everything.
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#6Perhaps this is why Pandora has the annoying "I'm still listening" button, so they don't have to pay out royalties on things their users aren't listening to.
It'll be a similar reason for Spotify's [former?] monthly limits.
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#7Sounds like a great way to scam the advertisers. I doubt this will fly if it catches on since advertisers will be coming back at Spotify citing a big decrease in ad interaction.
I guess silence clips are intended for paying users, no one would want to listen to ad interrupted silence.
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#8I'm sure this is against Spotify's TOS in some way.
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#9I wonder how viable this would be for someone who wants to actually scam Spotify? For example, I'm assuming that with only minimal investment one could produce and submit a series of silent audio tracks. Then one could produce a field of virtualized instances of Spotify and a fleet of bots to "listen" to those tracks. But how expensive would all of that be? And at what scale would the operation be necessary to produce an actual profit, if it could happen at all?
According to this article [1] the artist makes about $.004 per play. So, 250 plays comes out to about a dollar and thus 25,000,000 plays comes out to $100,000 which I would consider to be a pretty good outcome for such a quickly baked scam. But that comes out to 7.5 million hours of streaming at 30 seconds per play, and there are what...9000 or so hours in a year? So over 800 years to make $100,000 (pre-tax).
Now I suppose it could be ramped up. What if we had 100,000 bots that each streamed a clip for 30 seconds and they ran around the clock. If we play one clip for 30 seconds 100,000 times, simultaneously then we get to 100000/250=$400 worth of plays. So then we could make out 100,000 in about 75 hours. But how expensive would it be to run that many bots all at the same time?
Someone please check my math and my assumptions, I'm sure I did something wrong here.
[1]: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/19/zoe-keatin...
[edit 1]: also we need to count the hours planning and spinning up the bots in our value calculation..right?
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#10Music is the empty space between notes.