Data protection: Angela Merkel proposes Europe network
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#2This is such a great development, and I fully support it. The more decentralization we can make, the more freedom we'll have. As long as they are standards based, not pay-to-play, and, open to everyone.
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#4What so many people fail to realize is that the NSA will try and likely succeed at penetrating these networks as well. The real difference is that they don't need FISA courts to authorize foreign intelligence operations, only domestic ones.
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#5While I welcome the initative, I think this a case of sky hooks and tartan paint.
I also find it highly amusing that based on her comments she suggests that the UK is considered to be outside Europe.
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#6Don't give your data to US.
Give it to Germany!!
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#7The substance is more interesting than the headline:
"Above all, we'll talk about European providers that offer security for our citizens, so that one shouldn't have to send emails and other information across the Atlantic"
i.e. government support of alternatives to the US owned networked services that enable the data leakages, not low level infrastructure improvements. Whether or not such a thing is likely to work, I'd be dubious, but if they show even the slightest hint of going through with it the US will go crazy. Likely to be a lot of happy devs in Berlin.
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#8While I welcome the initative, I think this a case of sky hooks and tartan paint. I also find it highly amusing that based on her comments she suggests that the UK is considered to be outside Europe.
Based on the UK's actions they consider themself the same.
EG. Hacking Belgacom to to snoop on the EU.
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#9I hope it's more like "EU" than Europe, because countries like UK seem more than happy to sell the rest of us out. In the end the solution will be to build trustless P2P networks, everywhere, but the only way US and US companies will agree to allowing something like that will be if EU pushes for localized EU networks and stuff like this to make their life too hard otherwise.
Re: Data protection: Angela Merkel proposes Europe network
#10The substance is more interesting than the headline: "Above all, we'll talk about European providers that offer security for our citizens, so that one shouldn't have to send emails and other information across the Atlantic" i.e. government support of alternatives to the US owned networked services that enable the data leakages, not low level infrastructure improvements. Whether or not such a thing is likely to work,…
That makes a bit more sense. At the level of infrastructure there already is a "European network", with pretty good interconnects. It's very uncommon for intra-European packets to go via the US, at least in continental Europe. There are some routes where it can happen due to peculiarities of peering agreements, but I've seen it quite rarely. On the other hand, if lots of Europeans are hosting their email in the U.S., then Europe having its own network doesn't do much good: ssh sessions from Milan to Copenhagen go via Austria and Germany, but emails from Milan to Copenhagen take a North-American detour.