The 30-Year-Old Macintosh and a Conversation With Steve Jobs

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Post by nickbilton » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 5:16 PM UTC

To celebrate the 30 year anniversary or the Mac, Steven Levy released an unseen and raw interview with Steve Jobs.

The 30-Year-Old Macintosh and a Conversation With Steve Jobs
bits.blogs.nytimes.com

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Post by fredsted » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 7:11 PM UTC

Just FYI, the interview book was originally released in 2000.

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Post by hackaflocka » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 7:27 PM UTC

Such a great wordsmith Steve Jobs was.

I'm so conflicted --- I like Richard Stallman's freedom defending approach, and I also like the capitalist fruits of Steve Jobs...

Anyone else on here want to help make a serious run for Nobel Peace Prize for Stallman?

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Post by webwielder » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 8:19 PM UTC

hackaflocka wrote: post #3

Such a great wordsmith Steve Jobs was. I'm so conflicted --- I like Richard Stallman's freedom defending approach, and I also like the capitalist fruits of Steve Jobs... Anyone else on here want to help make a serious run for Nobel Peace Prize for Stallman?

It's OK to like multiple things.

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Post by chrisdevereux » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 8:35 PM UTC

hackaflocka wrote: post #3

Such a great wordsmith Steve Jobs was. I'm so conflicted --- I like Richard Stallman's freedom defending approach, and I also like the capitalist fruits of Steve Jobs... Anyone else on here want to help make a serious run for Nobel Peace Prize for Stallman?

There's a single-mindedness about both of them which, while undoubtedly a contributor to their greatness, also makes them divisive, unable to compromise, and therefore very bad candidates for the Nobel Peace prize.

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Post by jjoe » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 8:57 PM UTC

Ever since I stumbled upon this Steve Jobs submission on HN [1], anything positive I read about this man is disdain. There's a dark cloud hanging around his work. I'm getting the vibe that others are feeling the same way too.

I do realize the products Apple has built are the result of the ingenuity of thousands of Apple employees so one can't just discredit their hard work.

-- Cynical me

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7111531

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Post by joelrunyon » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 9:12 PM UTC

jjoe wrote: post #6

Ever since I stumbled upon this Steve Jobs submission on HN [1], anything positive I read about this man is disdain. There's a dark cloud hanging around his work. I'm getting the vibe that others are feeling the same way too. I do realize the products Apple has built are the result of the ingenuity of thousands of Apple employees so one can't just discredit their hard work. -- Cynical me [1] https://news.ycombinator.…

It's only been 24 hours since that link was posted - praise & disdain both tend to come in waves.

People have many facets - not all are good. It's dangerous to play someone up as a savior when they're simply human.

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Post by robterrell » Fri, Jan 24, 2014, 9:21 PM UTC

chrisdevereux wrote: post #5

hackaflocka wrote: post #3

Such a great wordsmith Steve Jobs was. I'm so conflicted --- I like Richard Stallman's freedom defending approach, and I also like the capitalist fruits of Steve Jobs... Anyone else on here want to help make a serious run for Nobel Peace Prize for Stallman?

There's a single-mindedness about both of them which, while undoubtedly a contributor to their greatness, also makes them divisive, unable to compromise, and therefore very bad candidates for the Nobel Peace prize.

Stallman is in a class by himself. Jobs eventually let them build Macs with fans, let iTunes for Windows ship, etc. Whereas Stallman has never wavered. Doesn't he still surf the web via email?