Netflix Loses Its Cloud Guru to a VC Firm

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Post by ckoglmeier » Tue, Jan 07, 2014, 10:45 PM UTC

Netflix Loses Its Cloud Guru to a VC Firm
businessweek.com

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Post by jnsaff2 » Tue, Jan 07, 2014, 11:11 PM UTC

Here is his own blog, maybe more interesting to read: http://perfcap.blogspot.com/

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Post by latch » Tue, Jan 07, 2014, 11:26 PM UTC

I wish we could observe a parallel universe where Netflix went a different route and stayed with dedicated or went with colocation. I'd love to compare the outcome with their decision to go with AWS (minus CDN).

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Post by avenger123 » Tue, Jan 07, 2014, 11:30 PM UTC

Does Netflix get special pricing for AWS? With their scale, they could probably negotiate with Amazon for lower rates.

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Post by zorked » Tue, Jan 07, 2014, 11:50 PM UTC

avenger123 wrote: post #4

Does Netflix get special pricing for AWS? With their scale, they could probably negotiate with Amazon for lower rates.

Certainly, see for example https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/reserved-instances/, search for "Scale with your Business". Similar discounts exist for most of their other services.

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Post by Xorlev » Wed, Jan 08, 2014, 12:03 AM UTC

zorked wrote: post #5

avenger123 wrote: post #4

Does Netflix get special pricing for AWS? With their scale, they could probably negotiate with Amazon for lower rates.

Certainly, see for example https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/reserved-instances/ , search for "Scale with your Business". Similar discounts exist for most of their other services.

Not to mention, Netflix is a flagship customer for AWS and directly results in AWS getting more business, so I'd expect the discounts to be even deeper for Netflix.

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Post by rtpg » Wed, Jan 08, 2014, 12:04 AM UTC

zorked wrote: post #5

avenger123 wrote: post #4

Does Netflix get special pricing for AWS? With their scale, they could probably negotiate with Amazon for lower rates.

Certainly, see for example https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/reserved-instances/ , search for "Scale with your Business". Similar discounts exist for most of their other services.

I remember reading something about how AWS is pretty much running very close to at cost (super razor-thin margins, just like the Amazon shops themselves),but seeing these numbers seems to imply otherwise (20% is a big chunk of change).

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Post by yoda_sl » Wed, Jan 08, 2014, 12:20 AM UTC

avenger123 wrote: post #4

Does Netflix get special pricing for AWS? With their scale, they could probably negotiate with Amazon for lower rates.

Not only Netflix they get some better price (I have no info but it will not be surprising) but I have even heard that Netflix do work with the AWS team to test first some new features before AWS release it to a larger public.

I have even heard that a couple AWS service were in fact created because Netflix was asking for it.

Netflix being probably the most visible company on AWS, I am sure they do have some special deal with Amazon.

Anyway concerning the news, it will be interesting to see Adrian in his new role! He is a great guy!

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Post by raverbashing » Wed, Jan 08, 2014, 12:20 AM UTC

rtpg wrote: post #7

zorked wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certainly, see for example https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/reserved-instances/ , search for "Scale with your Business". Similar discounts exist for most of their other services.

I remember reading something about how AWS is pretty much running very close to at cost (super razor-thin margins, just like the Amazon shops themselves),but seeing these numbers seems to imply otherwise (20% is a big chunk of change).

"AWS is pretty much running very close to at cost (super razor-thin margins"

Compare the Amazon price with other VPSs.

It's a different service, yes, but it's not even close, not even if you reserve the instances (it's been a while since I did the math though)

But for small scale, I recommend strongly against AWS

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Post by nasalgoat » Wed, Jan 08, 2014, 12:45 AM UTC

raverbashing wrote: post #9

rtpg wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember reading something about how AWS is pretty much running very close to at cost (super razor-thin margins, just like the Amazon shops themselves),but seeing these numbers seems to imply otherwise (20% is a big chunk of change).

"AWS is pretty much running very close to at cost (super razor-thin margins" Compare the Amazon price with other VPSs. It's a different service, yes, but it's not even close, not even if you reserve the instances (it's been a while since I did the math though) But for small scale, I recommend strongly against AWS

Isn't the opposite true? It's fine for under 10 instances when you're first starting up and still flexible, but over that you're better off going colo?