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Re: SixCalifornias - initiative to create six states

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I completely agree that California should be broken in to n states, where 2 However, I, and I suspect most people, would draw the lines differently.

In fact, I think most people will agree with the concept of breaking CA into multiple states, but at the same time I think most Californians would rather stay as one state than create new states with boundaries that annoy them.

Re: SixCalifornias - initiative to create six states

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Why?

> Why?

Create more influence points for business to target, and make it more geographically convenient to play them against each other.

Also, increase the proportion of Republican-majority states, which helps tip the balance of the federal government further to the Right by increasing the structural advantage for Republicans in the Senate and in Presidential elections.

Re: SixCalifornias - initiative to create six states

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Why?

12 Senators, for a start.

Which is exactly why it will never happen. Those over-represented tiny states will oppose it by every means, fair or foul, and there's simply no way that anyone else will find the change desirable enough to join the fight on California's side.

Re: SixCalifornias - initiative to create six states

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California is a beautiful state and I never want to see it broken up. Joshua Trees, Lake Tahoe, the coast of Mendocino, in fact all of Highway 1, Alpine, Torrey Pines, Russia River, the rocky hills of North County San Diego, Red Woods and Big Sur, San Francisco, Balboa Park, White Sands, Death Valley, and on and on. The many missions. The many universities.

Between Hollywood and Silicon Valley, California touches more minds and hearts than any other place in the world.

This state is amazing, so diverse and rich in culture. This six state initiative is such an embarrassment. People that advocate something like this are so out of touch with reality. The New York Times brought this up when they were referring to the weird rich kids that live in the bay area. I'd support California becoming it's own sovereign state before I'd support breaking it up.

Re: SixCalifornias - initiative to create six states

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Why?

12 Senators, for a start.

In Switzerland, some cantons (their equivalent of a state) decided to split. Before they had 2 votes each in the Council of States; after the split, each half-canton got 1 vote each - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantons_of_Switzerland#Half-can... .

It would be fair to split California into 2 and then each half would get 1 senator. Otherwise you might try to play the population card, but other states would need to approve (or could veto) the process.

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