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Fedora 20 released

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Fedora 20 released

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Post by drill_sarge »

Download: https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/20/

More mirrors here, but not all servers are synced with 20 yet: https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/publiclist/Fedora/20/

No announcement yet, link in title leads to release notes.

Fedora 20 released
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Re: Fedora 20 released

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Post by reidrac »

"Syslog removed from default installation" and "Users accustomed to checking /var/log/messages for system logs should instead use journalctl."

I'm sure I'm going to forget about that... I can't wait for the first WTF :)

Re: Fedora 20 released

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Post by Sanddancer »

Seeing the removal of syslogd, getting more than a bit grumpy here at the continuing direction Redhat is dragging the Linux world. Journald may serve the basic user well, it can't do half the stuff a good syslogd configuration can do; it can't pipe messages to other processes, it can't send messages to remote servers, it can't send messages to multiple places. If redhat had put in services to let journald do the things syslogd's been able to do since forever, I'd be more ok with its direction, but as it stands, it's proprietary in all but name.

Re: Fedora 20 released

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Post by mateuszf »

Sanddancer wrote: post #6

Seeing the removal of syslogd, getting more than a bit grumpy here at the continuing direction Redhat is dragging the Linux world. Journald may serve the basic user well, it can't do half the stuff a good syslogd configuration can do; it can't pipe messages to other processes, it can't send messages to remote servers, it can't send messages to multiple places. If redhat had put in services to let journald do the thin…

AFAIK it's quite easy to hook up rsyslog to it and then it doesn't make a difference.

Re: Fedora 20 released

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Post by DrJokepu »

Sanddancer wrote: post #6

Seeing the removal of syslogd, getting more than a bit grumpy here at the continuing direction Redhat is dragging the Linux world. Journald may serve the basic user well, it can't do half the stuff a good syslogd configuration can do; it can't pipe messages to other processes, it can't send messages to remote servers, it can't send messages to multiple places. If redhat had put in services to let journald do the thin…

If you need syslogd, isn’t it as simple as yum install syslogd and then you’re sorted?

Re: Fedora 20 released

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Post by alexlarsson »

Sanddancer wrote: post #6

Seeing the removal of syslogd, getting more than a bit grumpy here at the continuing direction Redhat is dragging the Linux world. Journald may serve the basic user well, it can't do half the stuff a good syslogd configuration can do; it can't pipe messages to other processes, it can't send messages to remote servers, it can't send messages to multiple places. If redhat had put in services to let journald do the thin…

Its only removed from the default install. A lot of fedora users (e.g. desktops) don't really need most of what syslog can do, and those that do can easily install it.
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