The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
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Re: The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
#2i don't know that any news corp outlet has reported anything to support the notion of climate change.
and to be clear, i'm not commenting on the issue itself, just the unbalanced coverage from this specific source.
Re: The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
#3This article is useless and skewed.
Im from Australia and the senator in question is a known skeptic who benefits from promoting those interests who would have most to loose in a carbon constrained economy.
"Skeptics" continue to benefit from saying oh its not happening. A senator taking a (likley) free trip to the US for a conference against climate change, big news!
You might find this more informative: http://wakeupfreakout.org/film/tipping.html
At least you have some facts to check. The wsj article is mere hyperbole.
For less bias in the news you read check out newscred.com (no affiliation).
Re: The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
#4Not only is this a dupe, it's a dupe from this morning.
Today the house passed the most important environmental bill in the nation's history, and that gets zero upvotes in favor of this. Really?
Re: The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
#5Why do these global warming skeptic articles keep popping up here? Global warming is certainly OT, and skeptics' theories are not really any more interesting than any other conspiracy theories.
Re: The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
#6i don't know that any news corp outlet has reported anything to support the notion of climate change. and to be clear, i'm not commenting on the issue itself, just the unbalanced coverage from this specific source.
Some would argue that "facts" should be argued on their own merits, regardless of source. But spin and interpretation are incredibly important, and a partial source cannot be taken as a provider of impartial facts.
Re: The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
#7Why do these global warming skeptic articles keep popping up here? Global warming is certainly OT, and skeptics' theories are not really any more interesting than any other conspiracy theories.
Intellectually dishonest conspiracy theories at that. As much as some people here hate the 9-11 truthers, at least the mainstream ones aren't making up facts or using quotes out of context.
Re: The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
#8Why do these global warming skeptic articles keep popping up here? Global warming is certainly OT, and skeptics' theories are not really any more interesting than any other conspiracy theories.
Freeman Dyson is a skeptic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTSxubKfTBU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k69HUuyI5Mk
Do you have the audacity to call him a conspiracy theorist? He's only one of the greatest scientists of the 20th Century. What kind of track record do you have to belittle Dyson? Seriously.
The point I am trying to make: not at skeptics are born equal. Some are ignorant fools. But others are well-educated and well-trained in the Natural Sciences. Your simplistic view that all skeptics are conspiracy theorists is ideology. You looked at no data. You did not check the assumptions. You did not create any of the climate computer models. You probably did not read any papers on the topic. So, your beliefs stem from where exactly!? This is not an attack. It is an honest question.
BTW, they don't call it Global Warming anymore. It's now called Climate Change. You see, since the climate is a dynamical system that is continuously changing, the name "Climate Change" per se has absolutely zero information.
Re: The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
#9Why do these global warming skeptic articles keep popping up here? Global warming is certainly OT, and skeptics' theories are not really any more interesting than any other conspiracy theories.
"Conspiracy theory" is an interesting phrase. It doesn't have a meaning so much as a purpose: to shut someone up by ostracizing them and/or to shut the minds of third parties (a signal that most people reflexively obey). It's a conformist move that has a tinge of violence about it, if a phrase can be called violent.
Personally, as soon as I hear someone labeled a "conspiracy theorist" I immediately sympathize with them, though of course that doesn't make their views true.
Edit: replaced "belittling" with "ostracizing" as explained below.
Re: The Climate Change Climate Change: The number of skeptics is swelling
#10Why do these global warming skeptic articles keep popping up here? Global warming is certainly OT, and skeptics' theories are not really any more interesting than any other conspiracy theories.
"Conspiracy theory" is an interesting phrase. It doesn't have a meaning so much as a purpose: to shut someone up by ostracizing them and/or to shut the minds of third parties (a signal that most people reflexively obey). It's a conformist move that has a tinge of violence about it, if a phrase can be called violent. Personally, as soon as I hear someone labeled a "conspiracy theorist" I immediately sympathize with th…
"Conspiracy theory" has a very simple meaning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory) and no derision at all. You might take it as belittling but it's not. The term "conformist" on the other hand fits your description perfectly.