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Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets

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Re: Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets

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Minor drug offenders are more often fined than jailed.

A friend got caught in his apartment with a grow op, drying cannabis, illegal mushrooms, other drugs and he ended up serving no time at all.

His time will be financial, he will have to pay off his debt to society literally instead of being incarcerated.

Re: Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets

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Beware of the political spin!

Note that while the number of inmates plummets, the number of crimes committed is higher than ever. This is a failure of the police and the justice system and not a success story.

Nearly 95 percent of violent crimes and robberies committed in Sweden go unsolved, and an individual police officer solves an average of three crimes per year. http://www.thelocal.se/20081103/15412

Re: Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets

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Minor drug offenders are more often fined than jailed. A friend got caught in his apartment with a grow op, drying cannabis, illegal mushrooms, other drugs and he ended up serving no time at all. His time will be financial, he will have to pay off his debt to society literally instead of being incarcerated.

AFAIK that's what happens in the US too -- if you happen to be white.

Re: Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets

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Beware of the political spin! Note that while the number of inmates plummets, the number of crimes committed is higher than ever. This is a failure of the police and the justice system and not a success story. Nearly 95 percent of violent crimes and robberies committed in Sweden go unsolved , and an individual police officer solves an average of three crimes per year. http://www.thelocal.se/20081103/15412

Sounds like Nottingham in the UK's bullshit crime statistics.

"Arrests fallen! Crime rates lower than ever!"

Actually people just do it vigilante style or don't bother reporting it because the police are fucking useless.

I mean I caught a person breaking into my car, had photos of the person doing it, the car was covered in finger prints, they arrived in another stolen car with plates that were photographed, left their tools in the car when disturbed and the police said they found "no evidence".

Was resolved for a small fee by a private "individual" who knew who they were.

Re: Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets

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Minor drug offenders are more often fined than jailed. A friend got caught in his apartment with a grow op, drying cannabis, illegal mushrooms, other drugs and he ended up serving no time at all. His time will be financial, he will have to pay off his debt to society literally instead of being incarcerated.

AFAIK that's what happens in the US too -- if you happen to be white.

and/or wealthy

Re: Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets

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Beware of the political spin! Note that while the number of inmates plummets, the number of crimes committed is higher than ever. This is a failure of the police and the justice system and not a success story. Nearly 95 percent of violent crimes and robberies committed in Sweden go unsolved , and an individual police officer solves an average of three crimes per year. http://www.thelocal.se/20081103/15412

Sounds like Nottingham in the UK's bullshit crime statistics. "Arrests fallen! Crime rates lower than ever!" Actually people just do it vigilante style or don't bother reporting it because the police are fucking useless. I mean I caught a person breaking into my car, had photos of the person doing it, the car was covered in finger prints, they arrived in another stolen car with plates that were photographed, left the…

To be fair, the supreme court have also taken on itself to change the sentencing. The lack of inmates could be because of a change in 2010. [Edit: the effects of which, are seen now]

Most inmates serving 10+ years in Swedish prisons are drug related cases.

In 2010, the Swedish supreme court decided to dramatically change the policy regarding punishment for drug trafficking. What was previously a 14-year prison sentence suddenly became a 4 year crime. [Update: Prisoners sentenced in 2010 would previosly have been staying in prison for 10+ years but after the change they are now released in 2013 for good behaviour.]

http://translate.google.se/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev...

Re: Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets

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Minor drug offenders are more often fined than jailed. A friend got caught in his apartment with a grow op, drying cannabis, illegal mushrooms, other drugs and he ended up serving no time at all. His time will be financial, he will have to pay off his debt to society literally instead of being incarcerated.

I think that's the same in a lot of EU countries. Too many people think those kind of drugs should be legalized anyway, so if the grow operation is not too large (10 instead of 1000 plants for instance), they won't do too much. Which I think is a good thing.

Re: Sweden closes four prisons as number of inmates plummets

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Minor drug offenders are more often fined than jailed. A friend got caught in his apartment with a grow op, drying cannabis, illegal mushrooms, other drugs and he ended up serving no time at all. His time will be financial, he will have to pay off his debt to society literally instead of being incarcerated.

AFAIK that's what happens in the US too -- if you happen to be white.

I have a friend, he happens to be white:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttUvsrcxKmI

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