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Yahoo Will Never Recover

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Re: Yahoo Will Never Recover

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Summary: Yahoo! doesn't have the profit margins nor the cash to be able to make aggressive maneuvers. Google and MS on the otherhand can.

Makes sense, but I won't go as far as saying Yahoo! will never recover, but it's certainly very difficult.

Re: Yahoo Will Never Recover

#4
Yahoo! is just less useful, I think in the future people won't ue its mail system, search and hosting. Even the developer zone will be replaced by other growing third party services like nettuts.

Will never recover? May be if they start something new and small that can grow in the future!

Re: Yahoo Will Never Recover

#5
Interesting piece - reads correct, but I wouldn't count out a company with 3 billion in liquid reserves. Wow. Also, this set my Small Sample Size Alarm off some:

> Bing is off to a remarkably good start. Microsoft has historically had 8% to 9% of the US search market compared to Yahoo!’s 20% and Google’s 65%. Early results show Bing’s share surging as high as 13% of 14% in the three weeks after its introduction. [emphasis added]

Still, interesting read. I actually feel better about Yahoo after reading it - I didn't realize they had that much cash in the bank. That means that barring an epic screwup, they've got at least 5-10 years to develop a new big revenue source. I wouldn't count them out yet, but they do need to develop some new products that make cash.

Re: Yahoo Will Never Recover

#6
Biased much?

Yahoo's so called "razor thin margins" exceed the historic norm for large corporations by nearly 50%.

Any comparison to a company that has yet to (or ever will) make a profit is irrelevant.

Re: Yahoo Will Never Recover

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Interesting piece - reads correct, but I wouldn't count out a company with 3 billion in liquid reserves. Wow. Also, this set my Small Sample Size Alarm off some: > Bing is off to a remarkably good start. Microsoft has historically had 8% to 9% of the US search market compared to Yahoo!’s 20% and Google’s 65%. Early results show Bing’s share surging as high as 13% of 14% in the three weeks after its introduction . [em…

I was surprised by the amount of cash they have too.

Other than that, it is an entirely incompetent piece:

1) He appears to think that acquisitions can only be paid for with cash. 2) He does not explain why he thinks search is Yahoo's critical business: Carol Bartz does not seem to think it is. She may well be wrong, but he needs to explain why he thinks so. 3) MS may be willing to invest heavily in search, but throwing money at something does not guarantee results. 4) Yahoo can afford deals such as the one MS has made with Verizon - especially as the wording he quotes implies that the payments are being made over a period of years and are likely to be covered by the revenues it generates. If MS is willing to make unprofitable deals to gain share it will make Yahoo weaker in that market, but he gives no evidence of that. 5) Yahoo has huge amounts of traffic, and a lot of good products. Even the search engine is at least on par with Bing.

Re: Yahoo Will Never Recover

#8
Is there a financial news site that gets high tech? Everything here seems perfectly reasonable if your talking about a company making widgets and doodads, but not so much for intangible computing based products.

Re: Yahoo Will Never Recover

#10
How to detect propaganda:

- Powerful words for those who just skim front page headlines

- Referencing stocks at lowest $9 when right now they are in a healthy $15.

- Words like mistakes, doomed, failure, layoffs

I know I will lose some karma here, but this kind of FUD shouldn't be tolerated here in HN.

We should know better how to detect it and how to eradicate this pest from news sites.

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