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Ask Hacker News: Online BS in Comp Sci?

#1
Hey folks. I have a BA in a non-computer related field... and almost ten years experience messing with computers-- mostly coding database apps, doing tech support, and some sysadmin type duties. About 5 different hats at any given job.

I notice that most of the more interesting type jobs use the BS in CompSci to weed out people like me and I'm kinda sick of it.

I don't want to quit work to go back to school... flexible online type courses would be great... but... are there any that are any good? My impression is that these online diplomas are a joke.

I hardly know where to start in looking at this stuff. I'd like to have my coursework improve my GPA... and then later have the option to keep working towards a Master's if possible.

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#2
I'm working full-time, so I've had to look into something like this, too. Troy University has a great one online that I'm taking: http://www.troy.edu/ecampus/

The most attractive part to me is that it's not "Troy University -- ONLINE CAMPUS ZOMG" on your degree; it's just a straight degree from the university that you earn from an online campus. A lot of other ones I looked at were very obnoxious about it being from an e-campus, which is pretty undesirable to me.

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#4
Hmmm...when you say that the more interesting jobs use the BS to weed out people, can you elaborate? Specifically, are you assuming that they weed out based on that because it's listed in the requirements, or because you've seen it firsthand?

I would think that years of experience in the field would trump the specific degree you have. I've heard a lot of people on HN who hire people without a degree at all, or who have been hired without having a degree.

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#5
A BS from a well-respected CS program indicates a certain level of knowledge and understanding that helps potential employers sift through resumes more easily. It's not perfect, but it is to be expected. As long as we are faced with going through HR departments, that slip of paper has big value.

I would try to go to a legitimately quality school even if it is not a top-tier one like Stanford or MIT. A decent school will definitely kick start your learning, but you still have to face the fact that some of your most important learning will be done solo (imo).

I'm definitely with jeremy on the fact that a real university which offers distance learning is far superior than most "e-campus". I seem to remember the University of Florida having a fairly good online program, but they, like many other distance learning variants, do require that you actually come to school once in a while for finals and such.

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I'm working full-time, so I've had to look into something like this, too. Troy University has a great one online that I'm taking: http://www.troy.edu/ecampus/ The most attractive part to me is that it's not "Troy University -- ONLINE CAMPUS ZOMG" on your degree; it's just a straight degree from the university that you earn from an online campus. A lot of other ones I looked at were very obnoxious about it being from…

It takes thousands of hours to get a computer science degree and people are worried about the wording of the piece of paper they get at the end. I find that chilling. It also kind of shows you how useless that piece of paper really is.

Just to be clear, I believe a degree is extremely valuable but only because of the knowledge and skills you gain from the process. The end result isn't nearly as important.

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#8
If you have extensive experience programing why not go for an MS in CS? The number of required courses is only 10 or 11, and would give you the CS pedigree you desire with the benefit of being an advanced degree.

What area are you in? Are there any schools that have part-time programs?

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#9

I'm working full-time, so I've had to look into something like this, too. Troy University has a great one online that I'm taking: http://www.troy.edu/ecampus/ The most attractive part to me is that it's not "Troy University -- ONLINE CAMPUS ZOMG" on your degree; it's just a straight degree from the university that you earn from an online campus. A lot of other ones I looked at were very obnoxious about it being from…

I completely agree as well - after asking here on HN about online degree programs, I ended up selecting Troy University. It's a real, respected university, with local offices in my city (Augusta, GA) if I choose to take a course or two that aren't offered online (physics, for instance).

They use Blackboard, which I loathe, but you're not going to get any other choice when it comes to distance learning.

Instructors are smart and fair and classes are reasonably sized so that you actually remember students names and personalities. The program is pretty well-rounded and they offer a multitude of electives to really focus in on a specific area of Computer Science (programming, in my case) while still earning enough credits to declare a minor (I've yet to decide on Math or Political Science).

On the business side of things (books, tuition assistance, advising, etc) it feels like a real university and not an online business (like University of Phoenix and American Military University, my two previous attempts, did).

Highly recommended - just wish they offered a Master's in CompSci (although I hear, it is beneficial to attend a different school for graduate courses). Guess it shows your ability to adapt, adventurousness and interest in experiencing differing cultures.

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#10

I'm working full-time, so I've had to look into something like this, too. Troy University has a great one online that I'm taking: http://www.troy.edu/ecampus/ The most attractive part to me is that it's not "Troy University -- ONLINE CAMPUS ZOMG" on your degree; it's just a straight degree from the university that you earn from an online campus. A lot of other ones I looked at were very obnoxious about it being from…

It takes thousands of hours to get a computer science degree and people are worried about the wording of the piece of paper they get at the end. I find that chilling. It also kind of shows you how useless that piece of paper really is. Just to be clear, I believe a degree is extremely valuable but only because of the knowledge and skills you gain from the process. The end result isn't nearly as important.

The name on the degree is very important as that name portrays what knowledge and skills you were given the opportunity to gain from the process.

A degree that reads [Insert State or Ivy League] University shows a much higher level of opportunity for the student to learn and experience than a degree from [Insert City or Random Rich White Man's Name] University Online.

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