Postmodern Programming
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Re: Postmodern Programming
#2I didn't read beyond the first few sections of the post, but it wasn't really clear to me how it relates to postmodernism (ctl-f "modern" didn't turn anything up either). If you're interested in a paper attempting to actually relate postmodernism and programming, the best I've read can be found by querying your local search engine for [Notes on Postmodern Programming].
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#3I misread the titles as "Postmortem Programming" and clicked on it...
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#4I misread the titles as "Postmortem Programming" and clicked on it...
Sounds like your reading hit a dead end.
Re: Postmodern Programming
#5I didn't read beyond the first few sections of the post, but it wasn't really clear to me how it relates to postmodernism (ctl-f "modern" didn't turn anything up either). If you're interested in a paper attempting to actually relate postmodernism and programming, the best I've read can be found by querying your local search engine for [Notes on Postmodern Programming].
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#6Can someone give a quick TL:DR because I honestly can't make sense of what this trying to say.
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#7Can someone give a quick TL:DR because I honestly can't make sense of what this trying to say.
TL/DR: It's apparently the full text of a talk in which he's basically that saying declarative programming, having its roots in mathematical logic, is an excellent tool for abstraction, the primary tool we as programmers use to manage complexity, and that he wishes he'd discovered it earlier in his 12 year career of commercial programming.
For the moment let’s think of it as “not imperative programming,” where “imperative programming” is you, the Grand Imperator, telling the program what to do. Declarative programming would instead make you the Grand Declarator: you instead tell the program what it is. And, with that, the program no doubt walks away enlightened. (Even if we don’t.)
All declarative systems are abstract, but perhaps not all abstractions are declarative. What makes an abstraction declarative?
some of those declarative solutions may well be qualitatively better than how we might be solving them otherwise—in fact, I think that’s extremely likely
Declarative code is simpler. It’s usually easier to read, in my experience. It’s smaller, if more spread out; easy to get around. It’s more reliable simply because each component has fewer moving pieces which could fail, and fewer joints between them that could break. On top of all of that, the lack of ordering means that declarative code is immune to race conditions, the single largest issue with concurrency. And it is clearly the direction that the market and the industry is heading in: there is a lot of ongoing, exciting research being done in declarative languages and systems and how to survive in an imperative world.
Nice turn of phrase, Grand Declarator, sir! (Personally, I have been getting right in to ABNF of late - generating regex and API systems and such based upon that.)
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#8i remember i read an article under the same title, that said more or less
that postmodern programming, is googling for code snippet to paste in your ide or framework
and all the effort you will do is configure and glue stuff together
sounded cool at the time
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#9This is what happens when you are drunk and can type 150 words per minute. :)
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#10i remember i read an article under the same title, that said more or less that postmodern programming, is googling for code snippet to paste in your ide or framework and all the effort you will do is configure and glue stuff together sounded cool at the time
Really? I think that sounds like a dreadful way to code anything useful.