Be the best?

#1

Post by bluedevmonkey » Sun, Sep 15, 2013, 8:06 PM UTC

What do you think about being "the best one" in your field? I noticed this: I don't start things because I know there is someone else who comes up with a better approach (oh, does the idea exists? search on github, find a repo, stop investigating). - think what you want about this perfectionist all-or-nothing, but please comment some cases where you did exactly the same so I can feel a bit better ;)

link: lifestoogood.net/why-you-dont-have-to-be-the-best/

Re: Be the best?

#2

Post by ibstudios » Sun, Sep 15, 2013, 8:12 PM UTC

Why do some monkeys like to climb to the tallest branch to make the most noise?

At best, you can only be the best for a short moment. What will you do with yourself after that moment?

I agree with your post, it is not that important. It is just the need to be the highest monkey in the tree.

Re: Be the best?

#3

Post by bluedevmonkey » Sun, Sep 15, 2013, 8:21 PM UTC

ibstudios wrote: post #2

Why do some monkeys like to climb to the tallest branch to make the most noise? At best, you can only be the best for a short moment. What will you do with yourself after that moment? I agree with your post, it is not that important. It is just the need to be the highest monkey in the tree.

I didn't think of that long-term view you described. reminded me of some one-hit-wonder artists - thanks for that, but what's the way for a long-term success? the best one retains in the highest branches i guess.

Re: Be the best?

#4

Post by mh_ » Sun, Sep 15, 2013, 8:24 PM UTC

ibstudios wrote: post #2

Why do some monkeys like to climb to the tallest branch to make the most noise? At best, you can only be the best for a short moment. What will you do with yourself after that moment? I agree with your post, it is not that important. It is just the need to be the highest monkey in the tree.

I must confess to finding this answer pretty insulting (but i guess in truth, you are calling everyone monkeys, and just distinguishing between those that climb to the top and those that don't)

I guess the counter-thought would be that of exploration & discovery, where we need trailblazers to set the path that others will follow later..

Re: Be the best?

#5

Post by thesash » Sun, Sep 15, 2013, 8:25 PM UTC

People don't generally accomplish something immensely creative or interesting by setting out to do so. Instead, they stumble upon that great idea after some amount of time spent pursuing their own curiosity. The process looks something like:

1. Do things that interest you

2. Follow the threads of those interesting things towards a deeper understanding of your domain

3. If you're so inclined, specialize further and repeat

4. With some combination of luck, perseverance, and time, you may become the "best" at something for a brief time, but either way you'll have learned a lot and pursued your own curiosity.

Re: Be the best?

#6

Post by bluedevmonkey » Sun, Sep 15, 2013, 8:39 PM UTC

thesash wrote: post #5

People don't generally accomplish something immensely creative or interesting by setting out to do so. Instead, they stumble upon that great idea after some amount of time spent pursuing their own curiosity. The process looks something like: 1. Do things that interest you 2. Follow the threads of those interesting things towards a deeper understanding of your domain 3. If you're so inclined, specialize further and re…

so it's a process built upon a calling and without any comparisons to other? the last part is read into it, but you get the point; I think these comparisons affect the motivation - even if you don't do it for that. - i.e. this blogger stopped with ballet after she saw better ballet dancers in her course. (unclutterer.com/2009/08/03/you-dont-have-to-be-the-best/)

Re: Be the best?

#7

Post by bluedevmonkey » Sun, Sep 15, 2013, 8:41 PM UTC

mh_ wrote: post #4

ibstudios wrote: post #2

Why do some monkeys like to climb to the tallest branch to make the most noise? At best, you can only be the best for a short moment. What will you do with yourself after that moment? I agree with your post, it is not that important. It is just the need to be the highest monkey in the tree.

I must confess to finding this answer pretty insulting (but i guess in truth, you are calling everyone monkeys, and just distinguishing between those that climb to the top and those that don't) I guess the counter-thought would be that of exploration & discovery, where we need trailblazers to set the path that others will follow later..

it doesn't seem insulting for me, perhaps my username led him to call us monkeys (what humans are, kind of ;).

Re: Be the best?

#8

Post by zombio » Sun, Sep 15, 2013, 9:23 PM UTC

mh_ wrote: post #4

ibstudios wrote: post #2

Why do some monkeys like to climb to the tallest branch to make the most noise? At best, you can only be the best for a short moment. What will you do with yourself after that moment? I agree with your post, it is not that important. It is just the need to be the highest monkey in the tree.

I must confess to finding this answer pretty insulting (but i guess in truth, you are calling everyone monkeys, and just distinguishing between those that climb to the top and those that don't) I guess the counter-thought would be that of exploration & discovery, where we need trailblazers to set the path that others will follow later..

>I must confess to finding this answer pretty insulting

Oh come on... anyone who finds a simple human/monkey analogy insulting is way too sensitive.

Re: Be the best?

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Post by ibstudios » Sun, Sep 15, 2013, 11:21 PM UTC

mh_ wrote: post #4

ibstudios wrote: post #2

Why do some monkeys like to climb to the tallest branch to make the most noise? At best, you can only be the best for a short moment. What will you do with yourself after that moment? I agree with your post, it is not that important. It is just the need to be the highest monkey in the tree.

I must confess to finding this answer pretty insulting (but i guess in truth, you are calling everyone monkeys, and just distinguishing between those that climb to the top and those that don't) I guess the counter-thought would be that of exploration & discovery, where we need trailblazers to set the path that others will follow later..

Hi. I mean no offense. I should have explained my thoughts better. I am not calling everyone a monkey, I am saying the behavior is a primate behavior that we share.

Discovery/learning is a completely different desire than the need to compete.

Re: Be the best?

#10

Post by meerita » Mon, Sep 16, 2013, 11:42 AM UTC

I wont be the best, I just want to get better. The best is something particular of that moment, you can't be the best because a minute after reaching it a new thing comes out or another problem will be face the earth and other people may figure it out better than you.

To me, it's more importante to focus on be better than you're now. You can measure this easily by seeing real world examples of what you want to achieve, then, force you into a method to improve your skills until you feel you're mastering. That could be more rewarding than feeling to be "the best".