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A Journalist-Agitator Facing Prison Over a Link

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> But keep in mind that no one has accused Mr. Brown of playing a role in the actual stealing of the data, only of posting a link to the trove of documents...And the magnitude of the charges is confounding. Jeremy Hammond, a Chicago man who pleaded guilty to participating in the actual hacking of Stratfor in the first place, is facing a sentence of 10 years.

I was surprised to see Aaron Swartz's name not mentioned once...the parallels between Brown's and Swartz's cases -- at least in the post-indictment phase and the seemingly disproportionate charges -- are hard to ignore.

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http://freebarrettbrown.org/donate/

An anonymous donor was willing to match 20,000 dollars in donations, but only if 20,000 dollars were donated by others. The deadline for reaching the mark is September 22 2013. As of August 30 2013 they had 3,000 dollars toward the goal; though this was prior to the recent burst of news thanks to the gag order.

http://freebarrettbrown.org/fundraising-drive/

I don't know how far they've gotten in the meantime, but I'm happy to see this issue getting more attention.

Meanwhile, the new Project PM website --wiki.project-pm.org-- appears to be back up! I'm hoping to do some cross-referencing of the various releases of the past few years. See if anything has been missed or passed over.

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I sympathize with Barret Brown; the NY times article unfortunately is rife with the attitude that 'journalists' (as in 'the class of people that gets that special 1st Amendment protection 'of the press') have certain characteristics or accreditations - whereas, his actions should be protected by the 1st amendment regardless of whether or not he is a journalist.

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These types of articles are depressing to me because they mask what could be a good moral and legal question behind claims which border on dishonest.

Saying that the Feds are charging Barrett for the crime of "posting a URL" is like saying that the Norwegian police would be charging Breivik for "pulling a metal lever" hundreds of times. I mean sure, he did that, but that's not what the claimed "crime" is.

Imagine a guy gets passed the key to a storage locker by his friends, and is told that the storage locker holds stolen trade secrets, credit cards, etc. This guy had nothing to do with the theft itself, but he knows about it.

Let's say further that this guy duplicates the key and mails it to a gang to do with as they will. If providing that gang access to that locker is illegal then homeboy here has certainly "aided & abetted" in that behavior, even though he did nothing more himself than a) duplicating a key (normally legal) and b) using the mail (normally legal).

The author brings up the point that newspapers have to deal with this issue, but it's not really as much of an "issue" for them at all, as being passed classified data is not inherently illegal, and newspapers still make an effort to avoid printing information which would be dangerous if publically-available. Even the NYT/Guardian's recent reporting about NSA capabilities with regard to crypto didn't spill all the beans, and what links were posted by the newspapers were to documents that the newspapers screened for safety instead of a link to "all the goods".

But certainly the papers wouldn't publish credit card numbers of victims of an identity theft scheme, would they?

Likewise our intrepid, noble and completely objective storywriter uses the maximum legally-possible sentence as a FUD factor without so much as a single reference to the sentencing guidelines which would be used to determine an actual eventual sentence.

There is a question to be asked here: Should these types of forcibly-exfiltrated secrets have any special inherent legal protection? If no, then posting a link to that data should be fine (assuming no other legal protection category applies). If yes, then posting a link to protected data would certainly be a no-no.

The answer isn't obviously "no" either, by the way, otherwise our current protections against identity theft could hardly apply, not to mention the Privacy Act of 1974, medical record protections, etc. But it deserves a better answer than what we have now, which seems to be "throw whatever vague law might fit at it".

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These types of articles are depressing to me because they mask what could be a good moral and legal question behind claims which border on dishonest. Saying that the Feds are charging Barrett for the crime of "posting a URL" is like saying that the Norwegian police would be charging Breivik for "pulling a metal lever" hundreds of times. I mean sure, he did that, but that's not what the claimed "crime" is. Imagine a g…

The relevance of your analogy of a storage locker filled with trade secrets hinges on a crucial question: Did Brown have specific knowledge that the file dump contained credit card numbers, and if so, was his intent in posting the link to the chatroom to disseminate those credit card numbers for the purpose of furthering identity theft?

Because if not, then given the crimes he's been charged with (aside from those related to the threatening the FBI agent, of course), he doesn't have the mens rea to warrant a conviction, to my — IANAL — understanding.

(There's, I think, a further question in terms of whether or not, and to what extent, posting the URL to a chatroom intended presumably for the internal communications and coordination of Project PM counts as publishing them, but that's irrelevant to his mens rea.)

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These types of articles are depressing to me because they mask what could be a good moral and legal question behind claims which border on dishonest. Saying that the Feds are charging Barrett for the crime of "posting a URL" is like saying that the Norwegian police would be charging Breivik for "pulling a metal lever" hundreds of times. I mean sure, he did that, but that's not what the claimed "crime" is. Imagine a g…

The relevance of your analogy of a storage locker filled with trade secrets hinges on a crucial question: Did Brown have specific knowledge that the file dump contained credit card numbers, and if so, was his intent in posting the link to the chatroom to disseminate those credit card numbers for the purpose of furthering identity theft? Because if not, then given the crimes he's been charged with (aside from those re…

I forget the fancy legalese for it, but some crimes do not require mens rea (or have a lesser charge for an action without the required mens rea). I'm not sure if that applies to the data in question in this case though, but it's a great point to consider for the general question.
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