Rambling On [PHP] Internals
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Rambling On [PHP] Internals
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Re: Rambling On [PHP] Internals
#2I'd often wondered if the patchwork, self-contradicting, non-standard, anarchistic nature of PHP was a reflection of the mind-set of the creators.
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#3Any large community has these problems. This is the advantage to using forum engines that allow non-anonymous upvotes/downvotes over a naive mail-list - people can silently agree and separate the wheat from the chaff, and consensus becomes far more visible. You can even give the important contributors greater "weight" to the ups/downs (this is not a democracy, contributors are worth more).
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#4I think the only hope PHP has of continuing development is if someone big like Facebook can add some direction to it. Maybe they will but I think last I checked even they were giving up on using it for much more then a thin veneer to their back end services.
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#5Any large community has these problems. This is the advantage to using forum engines that allow non-anonymous upvotes/downvotes over a naive mail-list - people can silently agree and separate the wheat from the chaff, and consensus becomes far more visible. You can even give the important contributors greater "weight" to the ups/downs (this is not a democracy, contributors are worth more).
He's not looking for up/down votes. He's looking for a discussion. Which well-meaning participants in an open source project should be able to have with some civility.
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#6I think the only hope PHP has of continuing development is if someone big like Facebook can add some direction to it. Maybe they will but I think last I checked even they were giving up on using it for much more then a thin veneer to their back end services.
Facebook isn't built with PHP (using hiphop-php) anymore?
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#7Writing in PHP is a war against the platform - that's why PHP code tends to look like a battlefield...
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#8I think the only hope PHP has of continuing development is if someone big like Facebook can add some direction to it. Maybe they will but I think last I checked even they were giving up on using it for much more then a thin veneer to their back end services.
Facebook isn't built with PHP (using hiphop-php) anymore?
The PHP code is the tip of the iceberg. The real work in Facebook is done by the many systems behind it, which are very definitely not written in PHP.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook isn't built with PHP (using hiphop-php) anymore?
The PHP code is the tip of the iceberg. The real work in Facebook is done by the many systems behind it, which are very definitely not written in PHP.
Facebook is entirely written in PHP. It uses all sorts of databases and other systems to handle stuff, but so does every other website. It's still written in PHP.
Facebook has their own PHP fork, which they use/and modify. I do not believe that Facebook pushes their modifications to PHP as a whole.
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#10Subscribe to it for awhile and you'll see.
It also turned off the suhosin author to the point where he moved onto other stuff.
He had some great ideas, now lost (no longer works with PHP > 5.3 )
But Zend shows up and folds back in some great stuff into PHP once in awhile.
Take a look at their now opensourced opcode cache, it's faster than all others.