Things I Never, Ever Want to Hear Again
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Things I Never, Ever Want to Hear Again
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#2I think more men are successful at tech because more enter the field. At my university, which was actually 56% female (IIRC), my electrical engineering classes almost entirely consisted of males.
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#3Quote: "I am less and less interested in engaging with the white male establishment, even though it’s been hard to resist with the deluge of stupid racist, misogynist bullshit they’ve been spewing lately."
Translation: because sexism is a problem limited to men, any rhetorical excess is justified by the victim class.
I wonder if there's an irony gene, and whether it may sometimes be completely deactivated in some individuals.
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#4Men: "Why Are You So Angry?
She: "I cannot even tell you how sick I am of men telling me how I feel."
I have to admit ... I'm not a native speaker of English, but asking a question and "telling you how to feel" are two different things.
TIP #1: Don't call someone an asshole if you want his help. Just saying.
EDIT: Getting downvoted because I think that asking a question and telling someone how she feels are two different things?! Interesting...
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#5Men: "Why Are You So Angry? She: "I cannot even tell you how sick I am of men telling me how I feel." I have to admit ... I'm not a native speaker of English, but asking a question and "telling you how to feel" are two different things. TIP #1: Don't call someone an asshole if you want his help. Just saying. EDIT: Getting downvoted because I think that asking a question and telling someone how she feels are two diffe…
"Why are you so angry" in native English is not a question; it's a question tied to an implication.
The question implies that the person being asked the question is angry. Most answers involve accepting the implication as correct.
The stereotypical example used to demonstrate this in English is probably 'have you stopped beating your wife'. 'Yes' implies that you have a wife and you used to beat her; 'No' implies that you have a wife and you still beat her.
Structuring questions this way is a bad idea because it puts the person you're asking on edge. It's also just kind of a shady way to use the English language. (Nothing against people who aren't familiar with this particular nuance, of course)
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#6Quote: "I am less and less interested in engaging with the white male establishment, even though it’s been hard to resist with the deluge of stupid racist, misogynist bullshit they’ve been spewing lately." Translation: because sexism is a problem limited to men, any rhetorical excess is justified by the victim class. I wonder if there's an irony gene, and whether it may sometimes be completely deactivated in some ind…
Agreed. The only person I see stereotyping or blaming any biological group is the author of the article.
Not a single example or well articulated point, just diatribe.
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#7Holy crap this is an unpleasant read.
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#8I think more men are successful at tech because more enter the field. At my university, which was actually 56% female (IIRC), my electrical engineering classes almost entirely consisted of males.
I think it's worth looking at why more men enter the field.
I think it's also worth looking at why the participation of women in computer science in particular, as opposed to other technical fields, decreased on a relative basis after initial increases.[1]
[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/business/16digi.html?_r=0
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#9Holy crap this is an unpleasant read.
That's the point.
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#10Men: "Why Are You So Angry? She: "I cannot even tell you how sick I am of men telling me how I feel." I have to admit ... I'm not a native speaker of English, but asking a question and "telling you how to feel" are two different things. TIP #1: Don't call someone an asshole if you want his help. Just saying. EDIT: Getting downvoted because I think that asking a question and telling someone how she feels are two diffe…
Agree with kevingadd, and to add a bit more to it:
There is another statement between the lines. "Why are you so angry?" implies "This is too unimportant/trivial/false to get angry about." That's the prescriptive part that I think author is referring to.
This can be extra-infuriating, because not only can you not get your listener to engage on the topic at hand, they're outright dismissing this as a problem worth your/their time. To put a cherry on top, they're laying the blame at your feet for getting worked up about "nothing".
It's a lot of implications and insinuations wrapped up in a neat little package. Fundamentally this statement is objectionable because it demonstrates neither understanding of the issue at hand nor a basic amount of respect for the speaker (that he/she is capable of telling major issues apart from trivialities).
If your goal is to belittle and disrespect someone, use this phrase frequently. If your goal is understanding and genuine engagement with someone who thinks and believes differently than you, don't use this phrase at all.