Value of Windowing is Questioned (1984)
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Value of Windowing is Questioned (1984)
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#3In the browser, I have tabs.
The only time I really use windows anymore is to drag things from one folder to another, and even this would not be necessary if Mac's finder had a "view extra pane" option, like Ubuntu's file explorer.
I find windows to be a clumsy waste of space. Agree with article.
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#4Am I unusual in this? Or perhaps is window use becoming less common because people are producing less content, either because they become passive consumers or because they are interactively engaging with systems (playing a game, online banking, etc) instead of creating?
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#5I rarely make use of stacked windows, multiple virtual desktops and a tiling window manager work much better for me, even then if I'm using two panes it's almost always an editor in one and a shell to compile and run the other.
"[W]indowing was to emulate the familiar, comforting desktop, a cluttered one at that. But it is extremely difficult to use efficiently a system that displays bits and pieces of documents . . . with just their edges sticking out here and there to identify them."
Using e.g. StumpWM's windowlist, I can unambiguously navigate to some desired window without guessing from partial information.
If it is the case, furthermore, that "windowing was to emulate the familiar, comforting desktop;" I think it's a skeuomorphism that we can profitably abandon.
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#7After I stopped using Windows, I kind of stopped using windows. On Linux (and my current computer, a Mac) multiple workspaces are smooth and easy enough to set up that windows are a pain. I would rather have my applications organized, taking up as much screen space as possible, and accessible with a quick swipe. In the browser, I have tabs. The only time I really use windows anymore is to drag things from one folder…
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#8This is not news to me, mind you, as I remember painstakingly entering every character of a long machine-language program into the monitor (call -151) of my Apple //c back in the '80s, for a graphical "windows" system published in Nibble Magazine (I really wanted a Cauzin strip reader!). This software was merely interesting, not really useful without extensive work. You could do the same sort of thing with a few pokes (defining the corners of the printable/scrollable screen area), just without the fancy graphics. It had no mouse support, relying on the keyboard for input and the software currently running in a window to manage the contents of that window. Being hand-entered from a magazine, I didn't exactly expect more. Still, it was fun to show people at the time. :) Of course the software discussed in the article was far more useful, but still probably not that much at the time.
I also remember the threats that Caldera made against Microsoft, saying they had enough prior art to lift Microsoft's trademark. That certainly had some interesting twists.
Later the suit between Microsoft and Lindows, which ended (interestingly) with Microsoft buying the name from them.
I was curious of exactly when the trademark was applied for and given, and was astonished how late (and mysterious) it was:
http://www.geek.com/news/suit-seeks-to-strip-ms-of-windows-t...
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#9You really want to argue with worldview from past? (30 years ago!!!)