Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
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Re: Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
#2I agree with this comment on the Ars thread[1]. I know this was discussed extensively here[2]. But, the comments on the thread seemed a bit biased towards one side.
[1] - http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/google-blocks-windows... [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6220233
Re: Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
#3I agree with this comment on the Ars thread[1]. I know this was discussed extensively here[2]. But, the comments on the thread seemed a bit biased towards one side. [1] - http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/google-blocks-windows... [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6220233
With that logic, Google could block any other phone like the Ubuntu Edge for "business reasons", Google deserves to be sued for this anti-competitive behavior.
Re: Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
#4I'm not sure if it's Ars' commentary, or just the commenters, but it seems entirely sided towards Microsoft. Ars didn't mention that Microsoft didn't want to play by the rather simple rules of "put the video in a web frame", and that Microsoft admits to re-releasing the application they previously pulled because it didn't follow the rules.
Plus, it seems like the author of the post fails to understand what Google wanted, and that Microsoft was being totally passive-aggressive in their blog post.
Re: Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
#5I agree with this comment on the Ars thread[1]. I know this was discussed extensively here[2]. But, the comments on the thread seemed a bit biased towards one side. [1] - http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/08/google-blocks-windows... [2] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6220233
With that logic, Google could block any other phone like the Ubuntu Edge for "business reasons", Google deserves to be sued for this anti-competitive behavior.
its not anticompetitive to not allow a third party to release your product on their platform without following your rules (reasonable or not).
Hundreds of millions of dollars in engineering effort and bandwidth go into Youtube. In reality Google is completely within its rights to no do anything to support any platform it chooses not to. Why allow a platform and company to leech off that if they're not willing to. Microsoft is just trying to win in the court of public opinion here.
Re: Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
With that logic, Google could block any other phone like the Ubuntu Edge for "business reasons", Google deserves to be sued for this anti-competitive behavior.
its not anticompetitive to not allow a third party to release your product on their platform without following your rules (reasonable or not). Hundreds of millions of dollars in engineering effort and bandwidth go into Youtube. In reality Google is completely within its rights to no do anything to support any platform it chooses not to. Why allow a platform and company to leech off that if they're not willing to. Mic…
That would be OK is the rules weren't arbitrary, it is not OK to allow native API calls to some and to force to use HTML5 to others, it is inexcusable.
Re: Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
With that logic, Google could block any other phone like the Ubuntu Edge for "business reasons", Google deserves to be sued for this anti-competitive behavior.
its not anticompetitive to not allow a third party to release your product on their platform without following your rules (reasonable or not). Hundreds of millions of dollars in engineering effort and bandwidth go into Youtube. In reality Google is completely within its rights to no do anything to support any platform it chooses not to. Why allow a platform and company to leech off that if they're not willing to. Mic…
Can't you use that exact same logic to argue that Comcast has spent billions of dollars laying cable into the ground and that it's completely reasonable for them to not allow content that doesn't fit within the goals of their "platform" like netflix traffic?
Re: Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
its not anticompetitive to not allow a third party to release your product on their platform without following your rules (reasonable or not). Hundreds of millions of dollars in engineering effort and bandwidth go into Youtube. In reality Google is completely within its rights to no do anything to support any platform it chooses not to. Why allow a platform and company to leech off that if they're not willing to. Mic…
That would be OK is the rules weren't arbitrary, it is not OK to allow native API calls to some and to force to use HTML5 to others, it is inexcusable.
There are no "others" and no "rules". Google makes the iOS and Android apps, not third parties. The Windows Phone YouTube app would be the first significant (1) phone OS to have a YouTube app not made by Google, there are no others to compare Google's behavior on for fairness. This is the first event of its kind.
(1) If you consider single digits market share to be significant.
Re: Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
That would be OK is the rules weren't arbitrary, it is not OK to allow native API calls to some and to force to use HTML5 to others, it is inexcusable.
There are no "others" and no "rules". Google makes the iOS and Android apps, not third parties. The Windows Phone YouTube app would be the first significant (1) phone OS to have a YouTube app not made by Google, there are no others to compare Google's behavior on for fairness. This is the first event of its kind. (1) If you consider single digits market share to be significant.
Actually, there are phone YouTube apps not made by Google, such as Jasmine for iOS, as has been brought up repeatedly. Unlike Microsoft, they complied with the rules, rather than throw a hissy fit.
Re: Google blocks Windows Phone YouTube app again, for “manufactured” reasons
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
its not anticompetitive to not allow a third party to release your product on their platform without following your rules (reasonable or not). Hundreds of millions of dollars in engineering effort and bandwidth go into Youtube. In reality Google is completely within its rights to no do anything to support any platform it chooses not to. Why allow a platform and company to leech off that if they're not willing to. Mic…
That would be OK is the rules weren't arbitrary, it is not OK to allow native API calls to some and to force to use HTML5 to others, it is inexcusable.
HTML5 seems to be the only public API they expose, and obviously they don't want random apps to depend on other, possibly undocumented APIs intended for internal use. Google can use any kind of whatever internal API they have in place in their own apps, I don't see why they should follow their own third party usage guidelines.