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What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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Re: What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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Anybody actually tried to imagine himself using it? It's rather claustrophobic experience, suited more to the astronauts than normal people: you can only be in some quite horizontal position, you can't even go to the toilet while you're in the capsule, the luggage capacity seems to be quite limited... It doesn't appear as something everybody would be ready to use?

If it could be bigger and more comfortable it seems it would be more usable and with more chance not to fail. Then it would have sense to also be more expensive to make it and maintain it.

Re: What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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Anybody actually tried to imagine himself using it? It's rather claustrophobic experience, suited more to the astronauts than normal people: you can only be in some quite horizontal position, you can't even go to the toilet while you're in the capsule, the luggage capacity seems to be quite limited... It doesn't appear as something everybody would be ready to use? If it could be bigger and more comfortable it seems i…

Well, the trip is only half an hour. Do people have better comforts on a metro or bus commute?

Re: What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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Anybody actually tried to imagine himself using it? It's rather claustrophobic experience, suited more to the astronauts than normal people: you can only be in some quite horizontal position, you can't even go to the toilet while you're in the capsule, the luggage capacity seems to be quite limited... It doesn't appear as something everybody would be ready to use? If it could be bigger and more comfortable it seems i…

It's harder to imagine riding a horse for hours ..

Re: What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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Anybody actually tried to imagine himself using it? It's rather claustrophobic experience, suited more to the astronauts than normal people: you can only be in some quite horizontal position, you can't even go to the toilet while you're in the capsule, the luggage capacity seems to be quite limited... It doesn't appear as something everybody would be ready to use? If it could be bigger and more comfortable it seems i…

Well, the trip is only half an hour. Do people have better comforts on a metro or bus commute?

Yes, people have orders of magnitude better comfort in metros and buses. You can exit the city metro or the city bus every minute. You can sit, stand up and walk in them. The buses for longer distances have the toilets and can stop whenever somebody really needs it. Here you'd be locked in the slanted chair for half an hour where you wouldn't be even able to stand up or stretch the hands! Sounds awful and has real implications on the public acceptance.

Especially after the first case of somebody going sick after he enters the tube and having to remain in it the next 29 minutes. Imagine you sitting next to that person. Imagine you being that person. Imagine your kid being that person. Imagine the press ("Mother watched her kid dying for 29 minutes in Hyperloop"). Imagine the reactions. The project would be dead for good after a few such cases.

You can't put normal people in the capsules for astronauts and just think "what could possibly go wrong." Health issues and effects are real problems and have to be considered. The public is used to car traffic accidents. It won't be so for the whole new transportation suited only for astronauts. This can be the start of the grand failure.

Re: What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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This is a pretty thin hook to hang a political rant on. Summary of the article: there is a gasoline tax, and there are aviation taxes. Therefore, taxes will stifle the hyperloop! Government bureaucrats!

More likely answer to the headline question: they will do the same thing with the hyperloop as with the maglev (ignore it).

Re: What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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Anybody actually tried to imagine himself using it? It's rather claustrophobic experience, suited more to the astronauts than normal people: you can only be in some quite horizontal position, you can't even go to the toilet while you're in the capsule, the luggage capacity seems to be quite limited... It doesn't appear as something everybody would be ready to use? If it could be bigger and more comfortable it seems i…

It's aimed at commuter traffic--as somebody who has routinely made a backpack's worth of clothing last a week on trips, I also don't think that the luggage is that much of an issue.

The bathroom critique is again silly--it's a thirty minute trip; if you can't hold it that long, you probably need to repeat preschool.

Re: What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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Anybody actually tried to imagine himself using it? It's rather claustrophobic experience, suited more to the astronauts than normal people: you can only be in some quite horizontal position, you can't even go to the toilet while you're in the capsule, the luggage capacity seems to be quite limited... It doesn't appear as something everybody would be ready to use? If it could be bigger and more comfortable it seems i…

It's aimed at commuter traffic--as somebody who has routinely made a backpack's worth of clothing last a week on trips, I also don't think that the luggage is that much of an issue. The bathroom critique is again silly--it's a thirty minute trip; if you can't hold it that long, you probably need to repeat preschool.

Has it occurred to you that not everybody has perfect health all the time? You can't actually expect that you wouldn't get sick the first minute after you enter the tube. Then imagine yourself having to remain there next 29 minutes and die!

This would happen. A lot. Then imagine who'd use that cleverness after the first such case and after every next.

I'd rather say "it's aimed at astronauts" than "commuters." Astronauts are thoroughly checked by medical teams and prepared before their trips, would you suggest such checks and preparations every time for everybody entering the tube?

Re: What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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This is a pretty thin hook to hang a political rant on. Summary of the article: there is a gasoline tax, and there are aviation taxes. Therefore, taxes will stifle the hyperloop! Government bureaucrats! More likely answer to the headline question: they will do the same thing with the hyperloop as with the maglev (ignore it).

they will do the same thing with the hyperloop as with the maglev (ignore it).

The US government didn't ignore maglev, they did a lot of study (including paying for me and my boss to travel to Germany to perform noise and vibration measurements on the TR08) and offered to help finance starter systems. It didn't go anywhere because it was hella expensive, not because of apathy.

Re: What Will the Federal Government do with Hyperloop?

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Anybody actually tried to imagine himself using it? It's rather claustrophobic experience, suited more to the astronauts than normal people: you can only be in some quite horizontal position, you can't even go to the toilet while you're in the capsule, the luggage capacity seems to be quite limited... It doesn't appear as something everybody would be ready to use? If it could be bigger and more comfortable it seems i…

I wouldn't use it because I would get claustrophobic. But I don't think it's being engineered for claustrophobes -- we'll take the train or drive, and people who are comfortable with Hyperloop will take that. No solution can meet everyone's needs.
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