We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
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Re: We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
#2... And as the foredeck of the Titanic sinks below the water line, we enter phase 3 of deck chair rationing ...
Re: We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
#3Unless I'm misreading it. The rationing rules in effect during Phase 3 are exactly the same as Phase 2.
So why the distinction at all?
Re: We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
#4There are a ton of /8 still assigned to companies that don't need them.
Ford, GE, IBM, AT&T (x2), Xerox, HP (x2), Apple, MIT, CSC, Eli Lilly, Nortel, Prudential Insurance, DuPont, Cap Debis, Merck, SITA.
All of those can return their /8. That's 18 /8 potentially available.
And does the DoD really need 12 /8's? I get that they want to network every person, gun, ship, tank, truck and plane. But none of those need to be on the public internet. (Well, maybe the people do - but 1 /8 should be enough for that.)
Re: We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
#5Unless I'm misreading it. The rationing rules in effect during Phase 3 are exactly the same as Phase 2. So why the distinction at all?
I would guess PR.
They want to push people toward IPv6 adoption.
Re: We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
#6There are a ton of /8 still assigned to companies that don't need them. Ford, GE, IBM, AT&T (x2), Xerox, HP (x2), Apple, MIT, CSC, Eli Lilly, Nortel, Prudential Insurance, DuPont, Cap Debis, Merck, SITA. All of those can return their /8. That's 18 /8 potentially available. And does the DoD really need 12 /8's? I get that they want to network every person, gun, ship, tank, truck and plane. But none of those need to be…
Rumormill at IBM is that we bought some random companies a while back just for their IPv4 blocks. You didn't hear that from me though.
Re: We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
#7There are a ton of /8 still assigned to companies that don't need them. Ford, GE, IBM, AT&T (x2), Xerox, HP (x2), Apple, MIT, CSC, Eli Lilly, Nortel, Prudential Insurance, DuPont, Cap Debis, Merck, SITA. All of those can return their /8. That's 18 /8 potentially available. And does the DoD really need 12 /8's? I get that they want to network every person, gun, ship, tank, truck and plane. But none of those need to be…
IBM is using 9/8. AT&T is one of the largest ISPs in the world. Hopefully any legacy space that isn't used will come up for sale soon.
Re: We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
#8... And as the foredeck of the Titanic sinks below the water line, we enter phase 3 of deck chair rationing ...
The band is still playing. I think that means everything is fine, right?
Re: We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
#9There are a ton of /8 still assigned to companies that don't need them. Ford, GE, IBM, AT&T (x2), Xerox, HP (x2), Apple, MIT, CSC, Eli Lilly, Nortel, Prudential Insurance, DuPont, Cap Debis, Merck, SITA. All of those can return their /8. That's 18 /8 potentially available. And does the DoD really need 12 /8's? I get that they want to network every person, gun, ship, tank, truck and plane. But none of those need to be…
> All of those can return their /8. That's 18 /8 potentially available.
If say, Apple is using at least a little bit of that /8 here and there (safe assumption, no?) its going to be hard for them to return it. I'd wager corporations that have /8s have policies that rely on the assumption that they have the whole /8.
So I wouldn't hold my breath on getting one back from them.
Re: We're about to hit phase 3 of ARIN IPV4 rationing
#10There are a ton of /8 still assigned to companies that don't need them. Ford, GE, IBM, AT&T (x2), Xerox, HP (x2), Apple, MIT, CSC, Eli Lilly, Nortel, Prudential Insurance, DuPont, Cap Debis, Merck, SITA. All of those can return their /8. That's 18 /8 potentially available. And does the DoD really need 12 /8's? I get that they want to network every person, gun, ship, tank, truck and plane. But none of those need to be…
Returning them would only delay the inevitable by a matter of months.
Deploy IPv6 today, it ain't hard.