Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
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Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
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Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#2Why is there not some way to disrupt this industry??? It is maddening that these people even exist. How is normal to take 35% of someone's salary for 6 months because you got to them first at the right time? How is it ethical to whittle a starry eyed junior down to 30 bucks an hour so you can take 60 or 70 plus? There has to be a way simpler way to connect folks to jobs in this day and age. ...Sorry, it just gets to me every once in a while.
Also, loved the letter, it's great.
Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#3Why is there not some way to disrupt this industry??? It is maddening that these people even exist. How is normal to take 35% of someone's salary for 6 months because you got to them first at the right time? How is it ethical to whittle a starry eyed junior down to 30 bucks an hour so you can take 60 or 70 plus? There has to be a way simpler way to connect folks to jobs in this day and age. ...Sorry, it just gets to…
Years ago I made a similar rant [1]. Last year it made the rounds on HN and because of that I heard from one company [2] that seems to be trying a different approach. (I have no affiliation with them). I don't know if that model is working for them or not. I haven't stayed in touch and I haven't seen anyone else trying it.
Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#4[] You didn't include the name of the company that is hiring, but I pasted your job description into Google and found the company and position in ten seconds. And no, I'm not interested in working for them, especially since they just laid off 2,000 people.
Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#5We're so lucky to be in an industry where our biggest problem is too many people trying to hire us. Thank god I'm not an auto worker.
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#6We're so lucky to be in an industry where our biggest problem is too many people trying to hire us. Thank god I'm not an auto worker.
Exactly. The good times are not going to last forever. Then we'll see how happy the recruiters are to talk to you if you've been an arrogant arse in the past.
Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#7I love this. I modified it for my own use:
https://draftin.com/documents/95708?token=uf_BIHiv8xAonKejRl...
Re: Form letter response for engineering recruiting emails
#8So true.
My take, in my role as VP engineering at Radius, I have hand-written every recruiting email I've ever sent. No template. I personalize it to you.
A lot of people discard it as spam, or don't accept the in-mail, or whatever. I understand, but at least on the off chance they read it, I know I tried my best and showed legit interest.
Sad that recruiters don't take the time to do such a thing, but it's often a pure numbers game for them. They get paid based on this stuff, just like sales people, and they just crunch through.
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#9I share your exasperation and agree that while I hold back such emotions, sometimes I am tempted to reply back in a bit offensive manner. And I have never replied to any such mails in past, not doing it in present, nor I am inclined to do this in future.
But I cannot agree with your second point in Additionally section. The recruiters are doing their jobs, whether or not just sending cold emails. They are not obligated to understand or even know the 'work style of engineers'.
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#10Your request that we start with a “quick call” shows a clear disregard for the work style of engineers
The "quick call" line resonates with me. I've had a couple of these interactions lately, and in my minds eye, I just picture someone [me] walking onto a used car lot and a sales person [recruiter] is trying hard to sell me, when I really just want to look around. Leads to an awkward interaction.