19-year-old hacker reveals how he rigged voting machines and election in Brazil
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19-year-old hacker reveals how he rigged voting machines and election in Brazil
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#2Re: 19-year-old hacker reveals how he rigged voting machines and election in Brazil
#3Every eletronic ballot in Brazil prints the vote count for each candidate before leaving the voting room. Several copies of this report are printed, every citizen may ask for each and political parties often do it. I do it for the ballot I vote.
However, he claims to tamper the results after that, during the data consolidation process, when data from every ballot is summed. So, to prove him right, it is only a matter of checking if the ends meet.
Apparently, they meet. No political party has ever contested the results based on this difference.
Not to say Brazilian voting system is infallible - there are many problem with it. But this is not one.
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#4His allegations are easily disprovable or provable. Every eletronic ballot in Brazil prints the vote count for each candidate before leaving the voting room. Several copies of this report are printed, every citizen may ask for each and political parties often do it. I do it for the ballot I vote. However, he claims to tamper the results after that, during the data consolidation process, when data from every ballot is…
I noticed Globo/Folha/et al haven't reported on this despite it having been revealed in December of last year.
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On a side note...
Anyone who speaks Portuguese, I recommend the documentary "Vocação do Poder", that follows 6 electorial candidates in Rio while on the campaign trail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI8_oz6lsbE
For those who don't speak Portuguese, search out the documentary "Send a Bullet" which looks at crime and fraud in Brazil.
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#5His allegations are easily disprovable or provable. Every eletronic ballot in Brazil prints the vote count for each candidate before leaving the voting room. Several copies of this report are printed, every citizen may ask for each and political parties often do it. I do it for the ballot I vote. However, he claims to tamper the results after that, during the data consolidation process, when data from every ballot is…
"Apparently, they meet." What makes you say that, if I may ask? I noticed Globo/Folha/et al haven't reported on this despite it having been revealed in December of last year. ___ On a side note... Anyone who speaks Portuguese, I recommend the documentary "Vocação do Poder", that follows 6 electorial candidates in Rio while on the campaign trail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI8_oz6lsbE For those who don't speak Por…
Voters and political parties have access to the printed copies of each ballot's report, printed before the ballot leaves the voting room. I used to work at the elections and I know they do, indeed, request these reports even before the ballot even leaves the room.
If you want to check a posteriori, the reports signed by everyone who worked at the voting room, plus the political parties representatives, are available at the electoral courts for anyone to check them.
As no one, specially no losing political party or this very guy who claims to have tampered the vote count, has ever came with an inconsistent ballot report, I can say that apparently, this is not a kind fraud that happens.
As I said, there are many problems with the current e-voting system in Brasil. The machines are closed-source, and there are no way to check the vote during the voting process.
But once the reports are printed, they are as good as any paper ballot, as this report works as well as a traditional manual voting counting report. Actually, better, as we can print several copies of the report in a distributed way.
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#6Interesting how the "TRE" (entity responsible for the voting process) keeps stating the system is safe.
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#7Re: 19-year-old hacker reveals how he rigged voting machines and election in Brazil
#8There are "The Alagoas case" which the candidate Joao Lyra requested a recount because he found out 1/3 of the ballots contained incorrect data and then asked for an audit, the court demanded 2 million for this audition, Joao Lyra then asked the the court itself to pay for it, since it would be in its interest to demonstrate the fairness of the process, the court refused to pay and even condemned the candidate for "bad faith litigation" for asking for an investigation and not paying for it(despite showing inconsistent ballot data).
It's true, our eletronic ballot prints the report but there is no way to check if the sum of digital records are the same as the printed reports. We have no way to tell if our votes has been correctly collected nor the political parties that the votes were correctly summed, thus impossible to make a recount. In a voting system where you are not sure on whom your vote was recorded and the Election Court goes against political parties that accuse it, IMHO thats a true threat to democracy.
For a safer election it must include a voter-verified paper audit trail, a VVPAT allows voters the possibility to verify that their votes are cast as intended and can serve as an additional barrier to changing or destroying votes.
German and Holland Court already banned this first generation eletronic ballot box for not being secure enough, and Brazil is the only country on the world who still uses it.
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#9Secureness of Brazilian voting system has been contested many times. There are "The Alagoas case" which the candidate Joao Lyra requested a recount because he found out 1/3 of the ballots contained incorrect data and then asked for an audit, the court demanded 2 million for this audition, Joao Lyra then asked the the court itself to pay for it, since it would be in its interest to demonstrate the fairness of the proc…
Yes, there is: you can check the electronic records online and compare it against the printed reports.
The other allegations are surely important to the voting transparency discussion, but are not related to the allegations on the OP.
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#10Voters would enter their vote into a computer. The computer would print out a card for you, and show it to you from behind a perspex card. You would then say "OK" to verify that it was correct and it would drop into a box.
Now there'd be a physical copy of the cards. These could be counted and checked by scrutineers as the current electoral process works. They would need to do a manual count independent of the electronic count, and the judiciary could oversee a wrap-up ceremony where the two were compared for correctness.
In order to rig a vote and get away with it, you'd need to hack both the computer system and the manual count. Chavez could do it, but joe random hacker definitely couldn't.
But you'd get a fast, clear result for television purposes. Voting cards would not be ambiguously filled in the way they are now. And if you had a compulsory preferential system, as in some jurisdictions now, you could cause the software to enforce that in a way that isn't possible with manual entry at the moment.