Secure Ideas will not be presenting at DEF CON this year
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Secure Ideas will not be presenting at DEF CON this year
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Re: Secure Ideas will not be presenting at DEF CON this year
#2Hopefully their talk will be replaced with a Q&A session with NSA reps.
Re: Secure Ideas will not be presenting at DEF CON this year
#3I wonder how many others (if any) will follow your lead.
Re: Secure Ideas will not be presenting at DEF CON this year
#4summary: they will not present, but they will.
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#5this is so awesome by Secure Ideas, and also an awful move by DEF CON. one of the largest problems with current state of technology is that what the fed is doing is possible. hopefully there will be a lot of talk about how to shift towards more secure services such as mesh nets and polymorphic encryption. the feds would have been good resources to talk to, and it's extremely hard to find an opportunity to have the kind of necessary talks outside of conventions like DEF CON.
Re: Secure Ideas will not be presenting at DEF CON this year
#6I wonder how many others (if any) will follow your lead.
I think some who have direct or indirect ties to NSA or other government organizations will probably feel the pressure to opt out for DEFCON that increasingly have become anti-government.
Re: Secure Ideas will not be presenting at DEF CON this year
#7Don't worry about the Fed's absence at DEF Con, they never attended for the content. They only wanted the meta data.
Re: Secure Ideas will not be presenting at DEF CON this year
#8As a symbolic statement by DEF CON, I like the "no feds" thing. Pragmatically, it probably won't much much difference, since any Feds who want to attend can probably attend and just not identify themselves as feds. OK, yeah, Keith Alexander might be spotted, but the average run-of-the-mill FBI or NSA geek probably isn't all that recognizable unless they wear their official ID or something.
BUT... looking at it from the "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" perspective, I'm not sure this is a Good Thing. The feds are going to do what they're going to do, regardless of what DEF CON does. Might as well invite them in, pick their brains, and learn as much as possible to help counter their shady machinations.
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#9Re: Secure Ideas will not be presenting at DEF CON this year
#10I don't agree with the statement that Secure Ideas makes; they are opting out because DEFCON is supposed to be an open collaboration place, but if the very netsec community doesn't have the balls to stand up to the extreme over-reach of the NSA, then we are farked.
Yes, most of us have known for years the extent of the spying the NSA/USG does -- and I believe it's time to take back some individual sovereignty -- the NSA has all but dissolved this.
For me, this is not a political issue, its a human rights issue. I have no respect for the NSA and its apologists, period.