How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
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How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
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Re: How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
#2This makes the assumption that Google's goal with Google+ is just to syndicate content, something that clearly isn't the case. They want content created specifically for Google+ - if they wanted a firehose of data they certainly had the capability and time to allow third-parties to put data into the stream.
Whether or not Google's goal is to create a social network or get more users is up for debate, but this certainly wasn't simply overlooked.
Re: How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
#3While I agree it is an interesting idea as someone who uses Google+ a decent amount I would not have wanted non-user contexts mixed in anymore than what is already there (these are already present for a lot of brands etc). I am already starting to get annoyed with the "What's Hot" elements and such inside Google+ I would rather have more subscribed human content that algo picked or rss generated.
I think that moving that into its own interface _within_ Google+ would have been a great idea though.
Re: How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
#4This makes the assumption that Google's goal with Google+ is just to syndicate content, something that clearly isn't the case. They want content created specifically for Google+ - if they wanted a firehose of data they certainly had the capability and time to allow third-parties to put data into the stream. Whether or not Google's goal is to create a social network or get more users is up for debate, but this certain…
This is true that they could push content. Though, there is a slight difference - a user subscribes or wants a given content. Obviously they want it to be created there, but it could help in transition of some users ... like me.
Re: How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
#5There's an assumption here that doing this would result in a material number of users for Google+. But I'm not sure it would: it's reasonably safe to assume that everyone using Google Reader knows about G+, and is either using it already or has decided to not use it. At best, what's proposed would convert some percentage of that latter group (maybe) over to using G+. It might be a couple million users if everything plays out well. It's probably less.
That sounds like a lot, but at the scale G+ and FB are competing, a few million (possible) users isn't worth allocating dev resources for. They're looking for things that move tens, or hundreds of millions of users. Some opportunities are just too small to pursue.
Re: How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
#6With the lack of options available in Google+ to adjust the UI, I would not want to move my RSS over to G+. Rather, they could have expanded Google News to transition the feeds over.
Re: How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
#7This makes the assumption that Google's goal with Google+ is just to syndicate content, something that clearly isn't the case. They want content created specifically for Google+ - if they wanted a firehose of data they certainly had the capability and time to allow third-parties to put data into the stream. Whether or not Google's goal is to create a social network or get more users is up for debate, but this certain…
I'm thinking you're on the right path. Instead of just adding passive feeds to Google+ and you clicking through I imagine that Google wants content creators to sign up for Google+ accounts and either create content there or post it there.
Re: How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
#8There's an assumption here that doing this would result in a material number of users for Google+. But I'm not sure it would: it's reasonably safe to assume that everyone using Google Reader knows about G+, and is either using it already or has decided to not use it. At best, what's proposed would convert some percentage of that latter group (maybe) over to using G+. It might be a couple million users if everything p…
My understanding was that Google Reader had somewhere around 12 million users.
Even if only 50% of those migrated over to Google+, if they had found a way to cleanly incorporate RSS feeds into their interface, that's probably a non-trivial amount of users, especially if they are checking multiple times a day, and sharing news/information from their RSS out to readers.
It's not just about users, it's also about activity..
Re: How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
#9After reading the title, I thought this was going to relate back to Google's involvement with the NSA spying program.
Think about it... what facebook user in their right mind would ditch facebook for google+ now?
They're both in bed with the NSA, and if that doesn't bother you (privacy concerns) you would probably never want to leave facebook in the first place.
Re: How Google have lost opportunity to get millions of Google+ users
#10If they found a good way of incorporating RSS into Google+, that would certainly be an incentive to use Google+; but just adding RSS feeds to a circle in Google+, as this article suggests, would be terrible. Google+ (like Facebook and Twitter) works on a "forget by default" system, where, if you don't consciously make a choice to save an item for reading later, it gets lost off the bottom of the feed. Replacing Google Reader with that would be a bit like replacing a DVR with a system that broadcasts all your favourite TV shows at once.
I think if I wanted to disrupt social networking, I'd work on something like a DVR for social media shares (or, perhaps, a more socially-integrated service like Pocket), which allows you to specify certain content as content you don't want to miss.