Why Does Talking About Creepers And Harassment Make People So Angry?
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#2> Why Does Talking About Creepers And Harassment Make People So Angry?
Because it is usually followed by demands and hate. "I am woman, you are sexist because you are a man, now gimme your money".
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#3> Why Does Talking About Creepers And Harassment Make People So Angry? Because it is usually followed by demands and hate. "I am woman, you are sexist because you are a man, now gimme your money".
Really? Can you point to some examples of that? Shouldn't be too hard if it usually happens...
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#4> Why Does Talking About Creepers And Harassment Make People So Angry? Because it is usually followed by demands and hate. "I am woman, you are sexist because you are a man, now gimme your money".
Why wouldn't the same happen when we talk about other forms of prejudice, e.g., racism?
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#5I think at least part of the problem stems from society's expectations of the "role" of men in relationships. Right or wrong, men are still largely expected to be pursuers but the rules are not well defined - often different women will have different ideas of what is appropriate which makes the whole thing clear as mud.
One approach is to avoid it all completely, to act as if everybody within a professional context is completely asexual. I think that approach really only works for robots and people who have zero social interaction with other people at work. It's unrealistic, so back to square one with the ambiguity of being human around other humans.
We end up with a cognitive dissonance born of competing and vaguely defined requirements and expectations. That's a recipe for frustration in any context - add the emotional and hormonal aspects and its going to be really stressful for a lot of guys - and that stress is going to come out in unpleasant ways.
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#7Because it is an attack on gender. Creepers and harassment are exceedingly rarely discussed in gender neutral ways- it is usually a man doing something to a woman, or sometimes a discussion of the reverse. It is not often both in a neutral way.
Additionally, the behaviour are things that a lot of people still do. Whereas with racism, to use the author's example, might draw the same ire (and it does in certain cases) as it divides people- there is mostly a generally accepted line that we know is publicly agreed on. But with harassment, until men are not so testosterone filled to constantly chase women, there will always be an element of their behaviour that women are going to find "creepy" at some point.
As such, in every post you are condemning behaviour that around 50% of the population will have done at some point. You're asking more than half of your readers to carefully evaluate the proposition and say "I see that my behaviour sometimes can have adverse affects. This doesn't necessarily make me a bad person but we should all actually think about how this affects other people more often, because this is a bad thing". Whereas a good number of people are simply going to see an attack on them, and reply in kind.
Note that talking about racism does make people very angry when you do the same thing- if you're talking about something that is murky and not clearly one way or another- say using a term that some people find offensive but many do not- then you're going to get exactly the same angry responses because now a good % of your readers are feeling targeted.
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#8> Why Does Talking About Creepers And Harassment Make People So Angry? Because it is usually followed by demands and hate. "I am woman, you are sexist because you are a man, now gimme your money".
Why wouldn't the same happen when we talk about other forms of prejudice, e.g., racism?
It does, if what you're discussing is outside the realm of something that is clearly racist. If it's open for discussion, people get angry very quickly.
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#9> Why Does Talking About Creepers And Harassment Make People So Angry? Because it is usually followed by demands and hate. "I am woman, you are sexist because you are a man, now gimme your money".
No, that's what the people who don't understand what "privilege" is (and ironically react vitriolically to it as the headline questions) project onto others because that's all the more they're able to comprehend about this issue because "I've never seen it; must not happen", etc.
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#10For the same reason that people lose their damn minds when the word "privilege" comes out. They don't understand the issue, they don't understand what it's like to be on the other end of it. "She should take it as a compliment", etc. It's a defense mechanism for those that realize they might be creepers.