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PRISM: The Amazingly Low Cost of ­Using Big Data to Know More About You

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Re: PRISM: The Amazingly Low Cost of ­Using Big Data to Know More About You

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According to the PRISM slides, the program costs $20 million per year. This article doesn't mention that, although it should, because it is telling. If the author believes that this program could be implemented at a minimum of $187 million per year, then that $20 million claim is problematic.

Either the $20 million claim is wrong, and then all the information on the slides is suspect, or it is correct, and the scope of PRISM is much smaller than is widely believed and is believed by the author of this article. Or the author of this article properly understands the scope and is in error in his calculation.

Re: PRISM: The Amazingly Low Cost of ­Using Big Data to Know More About You

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I would assume the government would require services and large teams to help them make sense of the data along with the low the infrastructure described by the article.

I am pretty sure they can't make sense of the data, nor can they afford the sort of talent that might be able to make sense of the data. So they do whats easy...just keep collecting more.

It's much more efficient as an employment/pension guarantee scheme than an efficient intelligence tool.

Reminds me of the qoute from Yes Minister - Something must be done. This is something. Therefore we must do it.

Re: PRISM: The Amazingly Low Cost of ­Using Big Data to Know More About You

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post #2

According to the PRISM slides, the program costs $20 million per year. This article doesn't mention that, although it should, because it is telling. If the author believes that this program could be implemented at a minimum of $187 million per year, then that $20 million claim is problematic. Either the $20 million claim is wrong, and then all the information on the slides is suspect, or it is correct, and the scope…

PRISM is probably just a small part of the all-encompassing spying program.

Re: PRISM: The Amazingly Low Cost of ­Using Big Data to Know More About You

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According to the PRISM slides, the program costs $20 million per year. This article doesn't mention that, although it should, because it is telling. If the author believes that this program could be implemented at a minimum of $187 million per year, then that $20 million claim is problematic. Either the $20 million claim is wrong, and then all the information on the slides is suspect, or it is correct, and the scope…

PRISM is probably just a small part of the all-encompassing spying program.

Right, PRISM is just the project that gives the NSA access to data stored on other (Google, Facebook et al.) servers. The active eavesdropping and other systems aren't included.

Re: PRISM: The Amazingly Low Cost of ­Using Big Data to Know More About You

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post #2

According to the PRISM slides, the program costs $20 million per year. This article doesn't mention that, although it should, because it is telling. If the author believes that this program could be implemented at a minimum of $187 million per year, then that $20 million claim is problematic. Either the $20 million claim is wrong, and then all the information on the slides is suspect, or it is correct, and the scope…

Author says it is worst case upper bound.

Re: PRISM: The Amazingly Low Cost of ­Using Big Data to Know More About You

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What is in a number? If you want to just look at the number given it seems awfully light to most.

Step back a bit and it makes a bit more sense. Payments authorized to data providers, along with legal immunity from prosecution given. Financiers like Bank of America seem to benefit off the data directly in a few ways, squashing domestic political dissidents while remaining unable to be prosecuted.

So couple monetary payments (bribes), legal immunity given (what for the bribes and all) and it seems a rather large case of global market manipulation. Indeed how many of these companies can say their profits are not in part sourced by access and inertia given by federal resources doling out immunity to chosen ones.

I would say 20 million is as false of a number as James Clapper's statements regarding NSA monitoring US citizens via firms he has financial stake in. Rather false indeed. Perhaps not an outright lie, but detached enough from reality where it should not be considered the truth.

Libor rate fixing, predatory lending, what else has been enabled by US/UK's need to have helpful data providers or financiers for their efforts?

$20 million USD is a lie. The cost of corruption is massive and burdens us all.

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