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White House admits it has 'access' to Facebook, Google

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Re: White House admits it has 'access' to Facebook, Google

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"EDITOR'S NOTE: Since this story was published, The Guardian has reported that the UK intelligence gathering organisation GCHQ has had access to the PRISM system since at least June 2010 and has generated 197 intelligence reports."

So other governments have a backdoor to our government's backdoor... What stops China among others from being able to access this?

On the other hand, what is the truth if Larry Page is saying that Google does not allow 'direct' access but the White House is saying that it does have access? This just looks like a giant finger pointing and blame game now.

Re: White House admits it has 'access' to Facebook, Google

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Mark and Larry seem to disagree. Someone's not telling the truth.

How do they disagree? They have access when they get a lawful order from a court. Obama confirmed the same:

"Now, with respect to the Internet and emails [...], the FISA Court has to authorize it." [1]

1. http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/06/07/transcript-what-oba...

Re: White House admits it has 'access' to Facebook, Google

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post #3

"EDITOR'S NOTE: Since this story was published, The Guardian has reported that the UK intelligence gathering organisation GCHQ has had access to the PRISM system since at least June 2010 and has generated 197 intelligence reports." So other governments have a backdoor to our government's backdoor... What stops China among others from being able to access this? On the other hand, what is the truth if Larry Page is say…

Interesting, well I'm just glad this is all hitting the mainstream as it is... I think the community here had been well aware of the lack of privacy in most online services.

Re: White House admits it has 'access' to Facebook, Google

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post #3

"EDITOR'S NOTE: Since this story was published, The Guardian has reported that the UK intelligence gathering organisation GCHQ has had access to the PRISM system since at least June 2010 and has generated 197 intelligence reports." So other governments have a backdoor to our government's backdoor... What stops China among others from being able to access this? On the other hand, what is the truth if Larry Page is say…

> So other governments have a backdoor to our government's backdoor

And we have a backdoor to their backdoor. It's fairly easy to assume that they -- state-sponsored intelligence agencies -- collude with each-other by offering access to each-other's data stores.

In a sense we are all foreign to each-other, and the USG may access American data through requests acting as foreign agencies.

Re: White House admits it has 'access' to Facebook, Google

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post #3

"EDITOR'S NOTE: Since this story was published, The Guardian has reported that the UK intelligence gathering organisation GCHQ has had access to the PRISM system since at least June 2010 and has generated 197 intelligence reports." So other governments have a backdoor to our government's backdoor... What stops China among others from being able to access this? On the other hand, what is the truth if Larry Page is say…

Sounds like everybody gets a hand in the cookie jar. Let's make a toast! https://secure.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/5455525432/in/ph...

Re: White House admits it has 'access' to Facebook, Google

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The presentation makes it seem they are harvesting the data. That would resolve any apparent contradiction. The biggest question is how? Surely google has noticed these man in the middle attacks. I think the guardian misinterpreted the word "provider".

Edit: it appears the NSA has google's ssl keys. That would explain all the talk about "direct access".

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